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Jay Lake
Date: 2008-12-29 09:14
Subject: [help] Language question
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Cleaning up some open items here before I return to my vegetative state.

What is the term for words which are neither acronyms nor portmanteau words, but something in between? For example, "Canlit" to refer to "Canadian literature" or "NORAD" for North American Defense Command." My Google fu is weak on this one.

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martianmooncrab
User: [info]martianmooncrab
Date: 2008-12-29 17:32 (UTC)
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militaryese..grin. its a form of Cant.
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Panzertron The Ruiner
User: [info]panzertron
Date: 2008-12-29 17:36 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
From what I've been able to gather, whether you use the initial syllables or just the letters, it is still referred to as an "acronym". So I guess maybe there isn't a word (yet) for that specific type of acronym...?
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Bob
User: [info]yourbob
Date: 2008-12-29 17:37 (UTC)
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Dictionary.com says NORAD is a noun...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/norad

Don't think that helps with the question directly.
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Panzertron The Ruiner
User: [info]panzertron
Date: 2008-12-29 17:40 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Oh wait... "syllabic abbreviation", maybe?
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J.K.Richárd: ONOZ!
User: [info]neutronjockey
Date: 2008-12-29 17:42 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:ONOZ!
My thoughts lean towards initialism. Though, Canlit could also be considered a blended word...
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Rose Fox: words
User: [info]rosefox
Date: 2008-12-29 18:10 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:words
NORAD and SCUBA are initialisms, yes. Not sure about "Canlit".
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thnidu: Dr.Whomster
User: [info]thnidu
Date: 2008-12-31 20:10 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Dr.Whomster
NORAD and SCUBA are acronyms, even in the strictest sense of the word, because they are strings of initials pronounced as a word. FBI and UN are initialisms, because they are strings of initials pronounced as a series of initials.

Dr. Whom, Consulting Linguist, Grammarian, Orthoëpist, and Philological Busybody
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Rose Fox
User: [info]rosefox
Date: 2008-12-29 18:12 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
According to M-W, they're all acronyms. You seem to be using a too-strict definition.

Edited at 2008-12-29 06:13 pm (UTC)
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sacredmime
User: [info]sacredmime
Date: 2008-12-29 18:20 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I thought they were called porkronyms.
(Sorry! and yes, I added a "k" to be even sillier :)
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Ramblin_Phyl
User: [info]ramblin_phyl
Date: 2008-12-29 18:29 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Anagrams?
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Ramblin_Phyl
User: [info]ramblin_phyl
Date: 2008-12-29 18:30 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Anagrams? I meant acronyms
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Leah Bobet
User: [info]leahbobet
Date: 2008-12-29 19:35 (UTC)
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The NORAD-type word would be an acronym in the technical sense; anything that's formed out of the first letters of a phrase or whatnot that doesn't pronounce each of those letters (initialism) is.

The Canlit-type example is yes, a blending (known colloquially as a portmanteau). Think of it by analogy to, say, Medicare or brunch.

(Quick reference I used to verify my own instincts on this was Stockwell & Minkova, English Words: History and Structure. A textbook kept is a joy forever.)

Edited at 2008-12-29 07:36 pm (UTC)
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farmgirl1146
User: [info]farmgirl1146
Date: 2008-12-30 03:01 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
How lovely to see portmanteau again.
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Leah Bobet
User: [info]leahbobet
Date: 2008-12-30 04:56 (UTC)
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It's a very elegant way of expressing the concept. :)
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russ: romanes eunt domus
User: [info]goulo
Date: 2008-12-29 22:49 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:romanes eunt domus
Lame?
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martianmooncrab
User: [info]martianmooncrab
Date: 2008-12-30 01:01 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
its also refered to as "Military Jargon"
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Wendy S. Delmater: spiral
User: [info]safewrite
Date: 2008-12-30 05:26 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:spiral
They are all words with a glowing "acronymbus" surrounding them.
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