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Jay Lake
Date: 2012-07-01 06:11
Subject: [links] Link salad marks the halfway point
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Tags:christianists, gay, links, nature, personal, politics, religion, science
Pyura chilensis: the closest thing to getting blood from a stone — From the cool-but-weird file. (Via [info]corwynofamber.)

Forams: 'Nature's masons'Organisms called forams build ornate and beautiful shells, which contribute to long-lasting monuments and reveal Earth's secrets.

Mormonvoices Explains Mormons Are Christians, Just Not Evangelicals — Talk about your inside baseball...

Bigots and the Bible — On picking and choosing so you can feel like a good person while justifying your bigotry.

How presidential elections are impacted by a 100 million year old coastline — Weird, cool piece of political geography. (Thanks to [info]shsilver.)

?otD: How is your year turning?




7/1/2012
Writing time yesterday: 1.5 hours (Kalimpura galley edits)
Body movement: 80 minute coastal walk
Hours slept: 6.25 (interrupted)
Weight: n/a
Currently reading: Shattering the Ley by Benjamin Tate

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mcjulie
User: mcjulie
Date: 2012-07-01 15:33 (UTC)
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The Mormon thing: on the one hand, I feel like the constant Evangelical "not a real Christian!" refrain is stupid, rude, and not even Biblical. If Mormons *consider themselves* Christians, who am I to tell them that they aren't? Certainly, they are a Christian offshoot, like Christian Scientists or Jehovah's Witnesses.

But... at what point does it become a bit absurd to claim (for example) that Christians are actually Jews because Christianity is a Jewish offshoot? Or that Muslims are actually Christians because they believe that Jesus was an important prophet of Allah? And I'm inclined to think Mormons actually go past that point because they have a new central prophet: Joseph Smith. But I don't feel that strongly about it. I would be interested to hear the opinion of thoughtful Mormons on the topic.

However! This quote, "When Evangelicals say Mormons are not Christian, what they are really saying is that we're not Evangelicals or their ‘brand’ of Christianity" is COMPLETELY disingenuous. They know that Evangelicals are inclined to say that stuff about Catholics and Lutherans and Quakers, and are trying to imply that their doctrines are no more different from Evangelicals than those other denominations.

This seems difficult to justify objectively, and is also a transparent attempt to make right wing Evangelicals feel good about voting for Romney -- which is something I do feel strongly about.
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jordan179
User: jordan179
Date: 2012-07-01 21:00 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Mormonism is actually based on Biblical fanfic. I think it's utterly-hilarious that fanfic has become the basis for a fast-growing religious sect. It confirms that I'm living in a simulation :)
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Andrew Trembley
User: bovil
Date: 2012-07-02 20:33 (UTC)
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OMG it's Fifty Shades of Christ!

To be fair, almost every religious text is fanfic. The New Testament is already Jesus RPF, with the Council of Nicea the arbiters of what violated canon and was too lemon.
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