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Jay Lake
Date: 2007-02-21 06:51
Subject: Clockpunk Manifesto
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Tags:clockpunk, funny, mainspring, writing

[info]princejvstin has given me the term "clockpunk", which he apparently got from a GURPS supplement originally. That being said, I'm thinking the world is crying for a Clockpunk Manifesto. (The world just doesn't know this yet.)

I will now entertain suggestions for resolutions to be included in the Clockpunk Manifesto. I plan to nail it to the door of a bookstore at some point.

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Rafe
User: [info]etcet
Date: 2007-02-21 15:00 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

- "Coiled springs must have minds of their own. The angrier and more sullen, the better."

- "If it doesn't give Rube Goldberg's corpse a stiffy, you're not trying hard enough."

- "We all know there is more to the world than shades of grey, but would it kill you to use something other than brass or copper for color?"[1]




[1] "Dog's tongue" doesn't count.

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bodandra
User: [info]bodandra
Date: 2007-02-21 15:57 (UTC)
Subject: Friending request

Sorry, I find your profile very interesting, may I Friend you?

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Jay Lake
User: [info]jaylake
Date: 2007-02-21 16:07 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Friending request

But of course! And welcome.

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Rafe
User: [info]etcet
Date: 2007-02-21 16:12 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Friending request

Uh, sure... if it's me whom you're asking.

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bodandra
User: [info]bodandra
Date: 2007-02-21 16:21 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Friending request

Yes, & thanks ...

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Jenny Rae Rappaport
User: [info]eiriene
Date: 2007-02-21 15:13 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Jay, you're not allowed to entirely own the world of clockpunk, by the way... Mary Robinette and I are going to write our own clockpunk novel, one of these days, and it's going to beat yours down. =)

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floatingtide: bunny
User: [info]floatingtide
Date: 2007-02-21 18:10 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:bunny

HA! I already wrote a clockpunk novel. Before Mainspring, even.
It's just not good yet.
(Sigh).

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Kadath in the Cold Waste: Science!
User: [info]kadath
Date: 2007-02-21 15:20 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Science!

Be discrete.*

There is no problem that cannot be solved with appropriate gearing.

*Spelling intentional

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Paul Weimer
User: [info]princejvstin
Date: 2007-02-21 16:46 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Ooh, I like that one, Carolyn.

Engineering and Science (especially in a Clockpunk setting) are 1% Inspiration and 99% Perspiration.

And of course, if Steampunk is Neo-Victorian in its aesthetics and values, Clockpunk is going to be influenced by Neo-Renaissance: Da Vinci!

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pauljessup
User: [info]pauljessup
Date: 2007-02-22 14:46 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Oh I like that. Neo Renaissance...tres cool.

Of course, there is a problem of powering the clock work machinations. Humans can't go around all day turning gears to keep stuff moving. I think one person (on the GURPS supplement) suggested a "black box" that could store intense amount of energy with a simple few turns of a key. This would provide a sort of kinetic feedback loop, to compound the energy that is stored inside of the automaton.

My contribution to the manifesto:

We will grind with gears the stale world that F/SF has become! With our automatons, we shall stomp out the pedantry of genre boredom.

Heh, because all good manifestos need some angry elitism.

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Jay Lake: tech-generator
User: [info]jaylake
Date: 2007-02-22 14:49 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:tech-generator

"With our automata..."

Jay, pedant and master tyopist

:D

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pauljessup
User: [info]pauljessup
Date: 2007-02-22 14:54 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

pfah. Plural, shmural.

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Chris Hill
User: [info]bookzombie
Date: 2007-02-21 15:39 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

- All clockwork automata should have transparent heads so you can see them working[1]



[1]And yes, I am thinking of a certain recent Doctor Who episode.

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Rafe
User: [info]etcet
Date: 2007-02-21 16:13 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Damn, I was thinking of Capsela.

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Chris Hill
User: [info]bookzombie
Date: 2007-02-21 21:36 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Cute! I'm not sure you can get those over here.

Though I did buy my dad a sort of clockwork self-assembly water tower thingy for Christmas, from a local toy store, which he seemed rather chuffed with.

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Tony Pi
User: [info]wistling
Date: 2007-02-21 16:47 (UTC)
Subject: Three Laws of Tictoctics

1. Stay reliable.
2. Keep ticking.
3. Save time.

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User: [info]blzblack
Date: 2007-02-21 17:31 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

It must contain clocks. It must contain punks. It must contain men in festo gear.

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desperance
User: [info]desperance
Date: 2007-02-21 17:35 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

It will need a ticky box. And a tocky box.

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dsmoen
User: [info]dsmoen
Date: 2007-02-21 18:30 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Snarf!

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frankwu
User: [info]frankwu
Date: 2007-02-21 20:06 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

I was thinking it would need both a ticky bird and a tocky bird.

Sorry.

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dsmoen
User: [info]dsmoen
Date: 2007-02-21 18:29 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Why not nail it to a clock store?

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User: (Anonymous)
Date: 2007-02-21 19:41 (UTC)
Subject: Clockpunk?!

Before y'all go off on a "clockpunk" tangent, I strongly recommend to check out "The Whenever at the City's Heart" by Hal Duncan in the upcoming Interzone #209 (our 25th Anniversary issue, slated early March).

Teaser excerpt here: http://www.ttapress.com/IZcurrent.html . As Clockpunk goes, this will be the story to beat. Hell, as fantastic fiction goes, this one will be hard to beat, and I don't say this lightly.

This is Hal Duncan at full stylistic and conceptual throttle, shooting off more rococo, rock'n'roll and rollicking notions than most trilogies. This is, almost, Vellum and Ink compressed in a mere 8700 words. Yes, it's *that* good.

Read this before you write your Clockpunk Manifesto. Then wonder: can I do better? You have been warned...

--Jetse

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Jay Lake
User: [info]jaylake
Date: 2007-02-21 20:31 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Clockpunk?!

I would love nothing more than to see Hal take this on and hand me my ass! I'm really looking forward to that.

As for the manifesto... :: looks around :: Psst. It's a joke.

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martianmooncrab
User: [info]martianmooncrab
Date: 2007-02-21 19:49 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Winding Keys are not for salacious purposes.

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Jeremy Tolbert
User: [info]the_flea_king
Date: 2007-02-21 20:26 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

I'm telling you, it's GEARPUNK!

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User: [info]jonathanstrahan
Date: 2007-02-21 23:17 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

I may be missing something, but how is it different from steampunk?

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Peter Hollo
User: [info]frogworth
Date: 2007-02-22 01:09 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Clocks

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Peter Hollo
User: [info]frogworth
Date: 2007-02-22 01:09 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

And maybe gears

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Peter Hollo
User: [info]frogworth
Date: 2007-02-22 01:10 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Steam by no means compulsory

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User: [info]creed_of_hubris
Date: 2007-02-21 23:18 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

The manifesto should clearly open with

"The time has come..."

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pauljessup
User: [info]pauljessup
Date: 2007-02-22 14:50 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

To talk of many things
Of gears--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of automaton kings--
And why we turn the keys at night--
And whether masks have springs.

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Jay Lake
User: [info]jaylake
Date: 2007-02-22 14:52 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Oh, man, that was good...

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pauljessup
User: [info]pauljessup
Date: 2007-02-22 14:53 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Yes, I'm going to have to use that in a story somewhere...

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gvdub
User: [info]gvdub
Date: 2007-02-21 23:57 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

As long as it, somewhere, talks about "The Finial Solution", I'm fine with it.

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Peter Hollo
User: [info]frogworth
Date: 2007-02-22 01:12 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

I plan to nail it to the door of a bookstore at some point.
You have to do this before the Diet of Bookworms.

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User: [info]james_angove
Date: 2007-04-06 20:12 (UTC)
Subject: Um....

http://james-nicoll.livejournal.com/393152.html

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Jay Lake
User: [info]jaylake
Date: 2007-04-06 20:15 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Um....

Ooh, rock! I am so off the hook.

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