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Jay Lake
Date: 2007-04-16 05:33
Subject: That's telling them!
Security: Public
Tags:iraq, politics
I heard a snippet on NPR this morning about a speech Karl Rove gave here in Oregon Friday castigating Democrats for handcuffing the generals in Iraq by trying to run the war from Washington. (Sorry, no hard cite yet...haven't run it down except indirectly here.)

Irony is now officially dead. Drawn, quartered, buried at a crossroads at midnight with a stake through its heart, and sown with salt.

Also, I really don't understand why Paul Wolfowitz continues to hold his job at the World Bank. Apparently there's simply no accountability for giving his girlfriend an 80% raise and a cushy promotion -- something he's not even trying to deny at this point. I have no knowledge of World Bank personnel policies, but if they're anything like those of any other major enterprise, that would be a firing offense for anyone below Wolfowitz's management tier.

Without respect to partisanship (admittedly difficult where uberNeocon Wolfowitz is concerned), where is the meaningful consequence for this behavior?
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Richard Parks
User: ogre_san
Date: 2007-04-16 13:06 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Consequences? Consequences are for other people. People like Democrats and, you know, liberals.

Ah, Irony. We hardly knew ye.
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Rafe
User: etcet
Date: 2007-04-16 13:39 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Consequences are available for anyone without the means to escape them, or is willing to admit they exist.

If you're a conscience-free rich fuck, you can shop elsewhere.
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User: dirkcjelli
Date: 2007-04-16 13:42 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Power. Fear. Loyalty.

I don't know how we're going to dig out all the theo-fascists, even if Democrats win in 2008.
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Brian Dolton
User: tchernabyelo
Date: 2007-04-16 15:41 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Well, we can always keep our fingers crossed for the Rapture...
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Bob
User: yourbob
Date: 2007-04-16 15:41 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
W supports him in his position, the news said. Therefore, I assume, there is nothing anyone can do except hate America more.
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Brian Dolton
User: tchernabyelo
Date: 2007-04-16 15:43 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I particularly liked this assertion:

“Long after I'm dead there'll be only one memory of me,” said Rove. “Me on YouTube making a fool of myself.”


Oh, come now, Rover. I think you'll be remembered for much more than that.
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User: bdkellmer
Date: 2007-04-16 16:58 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
From what I understand, it's against World Bank policy, and there are lots of folks there who are really pissed at him for it.
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jetse
User: jetse
Date: 2007-04-16 18:15 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
News I just read today in Holland said that EU Commissary Louis Michel is also 'very worried' about the Wolfowitz affair, especially since they supported his candidacy after a charm offensive he did almost exactly two years ago.

A salient detail (from the BBC website):

Even before this crisis, Mr Wolfowitz's leadership of the bank had been highly controversial. He clashed frequently with insiders who regarded his management style and his policies as unacceptable, in particular, his insistence that bank help for poor nations be tied in future to their willingness to root out corruption.

Practice what you preach, eh.

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Leslie Claire Walker: Puppet Angel
User: lesliewalker
Date: 2007-04-16 18:53 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Puppet Angel
Amazing, as usual.

What also amazes me is the complete and utter lack of overt shame or embarassment or any related emotion that would have caused others with similar behavior in years past to fall on their swords, or at least resign.

Ugh.
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David D. Levine
User: davidlevine
Date: 2007-04-16 19:03 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Bush said, in almost these words, that Wolfie was doing a heck of a job.

He's doomed.
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Danny Adams
User: madwriter
Date: 2007-04-16 19:04 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Once again I'm reminded of Tom Lehrer commenting in 1973, after Kissinger got the Nobel Peace Prize, that he quit performing because no satire could compete with the truth.

As for Wolfowitz, I've already heard the Republicans pass this off as "Eh, the World Bank staff has a long tradition of dissing its leaders". Never mind what Wolfowitz did; those darn staffers are just cantankerous.
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Danny Adams
User: madwriter
Date: 2007-04-16 19:06 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Hey, speaking of irony being dead, did you hear the British government statement the other day...can't remember if it was in reference to Ukraine or Iran, though...that they don't make a policy of supporting regime change?
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dinogrl: Bush Attacks!
User: dinogrl
Date: 2007-04-17 04:36 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Bush Attacks!
Oh Karl, I think I know why your name is "Turd Blossom". Kissin' the Shrub's chocolate starfish again and again and again.
Was Jeff Gannon writing Rove's speech?
I mean, "handcuffing generals"?

(sorry, that was crude)
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dinogrl: clemens comments
User: dinogrl
Date: 2007-04-17 04:42 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:clemens comments
Oops, meant to mention, you have 150 republicans who would attend something like that in Oregon?
wow.
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