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Jay Lake
Date: 2007-07-15 08:27
Subject: [politics] Disturbing yet strangely funny in some odd ways
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Transcript of Bill Moyers talking to Bruce Fein and John Nichols about potential impeachment of both Bush and Cheney.

(In case you're making assumptions about the partisan angle here, Fein wrote the articles of impeachment used against Bill Clinton.)
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User: ericjamesstone
Date: 2007-07-15 15:49 (UTC)
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I thought this bit was hilarious:

> JOHN NICHOLS: ... They-- it-- when the Republicans are in charge, they see
> their job as challenging-- or as supporting the president in whatever he
> does, defending him, making it possible for him to do whatever he wants. ...

Which is why the Republicans rallied round Bush to pass his immigration reform bill, and why Harriet Miers is now a Supreme Court justice.
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User: kara_gnome
Date: 2007-07-15 15:51 (UTC)
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I watched the show. It was wonderful! Fein and Nichols were riveting, I thought.
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Kelly Green
User: saycestsay
Date: 2007-07-15 16:37 (UTC)
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Amazing amount of blame-spreading. Media aren't doing their job, Nancy Pelosi is wrong, Congress has no backbone, don't give this magic box o'powers to the next White House inhabitant, Cheney is teh Evil Puppetmaster, Rove is a meany, Bush thinks he's a monarch... even excursions into Reagan, Nixon, and LBJ territory (Clinton gets an interesting pass: "his perjury wasn't as bad as Bush's crimes").

Where's the focus? When you say it's everybody's fault, it's nigh-on impossible to pin blame on anyone. If we impeach Bush and remove the sucker from office, we have Cheney as president (shudders.) Cheney? He is subordinate to the president's office. Impeach them both? We need criminal offenses. Just being mad at 'em cuz they are playing fast and loose with the rules (pretty much like lawyers in court) isn't gonna do it.

I guess we have to wait for the current confrontation to play out. Will Congress really hold the executive branch in contempt? Sure hope so.
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