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Jay Lake
Date: 2007-07-19 06:54
Subject: [personal] If you're new here, say hello. Ask a question.
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Hey there LJ. There's always new people dropping by to read, so I wanted to say hi.

Also, consider this an open thread to ask me questions. About anything, really. Comments aren't screened this time.
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S. Boyd Taylor
User: sboydtaylor
Date: 2007-07-19 14:04 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Where did you get the idea for Mainspring? And what resources did you use to develop the clockwork verisimilitude?

I hope those questions make sense. %)
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S. Boyd Taylor
User: sboydtaylor
Date: 2007-07-19 14:06 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Oh, and Hi :)
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Brennan M. O'Keefe
User: harmfulguy
Date: 2007-07-19 14:36 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Umm, hi. Just picked up Mainspring (haven't started, but it's in the Queue), saw someone link you, figured I'd see what else you had to say.
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Jay Lake: writing-Mainspring
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 14:39 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:writing-Mainspring
Welcome! The usual stuff...I talk about writing, politics, my child, weird tech, culture, cars...

I hope you enjoy the book.
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William Ledbetter
User: wbledbetter
Date: 2007-07-19 14:48 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Hey Jay. I think we know a lot of the same people and attend some of the same cons, but I don't think we've ever really met. I'm usually just a lurker on LJ and only comment if I have something useful to add to the fray. So since you asked, HELLO!

-Bill Ledbetter
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Jay Lake: sanguine-pelican
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 16:40 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:sanguine-pelican
Well hey there. I'm glad you have a "something useful" policy -- I should consider that myself at some point!
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steve_buchheit
User: steve_buchheit
Date: 2007-07-19 15:26 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Well, hello. I'm new around these here parts. I don't have too many questions, yet. Just thought since you were being neighborly that I'd be neighborly. Consider this the wave as you drive by. :)
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 16:40 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
:: waves back ::
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Brian Dolton
User: tchernabyelo
Date: 2007-07-19 15:36 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Heh, I got a question.

What's the wordcount for "Trial of Flowers"? The reason I ask is that it's pretty hard to find actual wordcounts for published novels, and even harder to find them for ones I've read.

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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 16:42 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
122,800 (roughly). And yes, that's hard to figure out if you don't have the electronic file on hand.
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Alexander B. L.
User: aleksandyr
Date: 2007-07-19 15:46 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Hi! Via kadath, I got to read The Soul Bottles, and loved it: if I wasn't in the process of moving cross-country I'd have already read Trial of Flowers. I'm really, really looking forward to it!

I friended you since you've got great taste in links, and --- no surprise --- lots of interesting, well-written anecdotes. :)
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 16:42 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Well, thank'ee. If the Dr Pepper story didn't drive you away, perhaps this is a good place to visit. I hope you continue to enjoy.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 16:42 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Tim Pratt
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Ross E. Lockhart
User: lossrockhart
Date: 2007-07-19 15:52 (UTC)
Subject: Since you asked...
Considering that this is a thematic, yet spoiler-iffic question, I'll be nice and put it behind an LJ-Cut...



So, what's with the cripples?

Vernon Dunham in Rocket Science suffers from polio; by the end of Mainspring, Hethor Jacques's legs have been crushed by the mechanical workings of the world; likewise, by the end of Trial of Flowers, Imago of Lockwood has been surgically altered, transformed and twisted into a dwarf.

Is an active part of your overall literary message something along the lines of "the world will crush you," are you using the physical marring of your protagonists as a exterior symbol of interior transformation and/or damage, or do you just have a thing for the gimps?

Since Trial of Flowers and Mainspring are both first books of duologies (series?), I understand if you're reticent to answer (particularly if these injurious hobblings will figure into the next books' plots), but still, given the traditional role of the grotesque in literature, engendering both empathy and disgust (Shakespeare's Caliban, Hugo's Huntchback, Poe's Hop-Frog), it seems a point worth serious, even scholarly, consideration.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 17:16 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Since you asked...
That will require a more thoughtful answer than I have time for right this moment. Watch this space!
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avocadovpx
User: avocadovpx
Date: 2007-07-19 15:58 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Hi, Jay. Me? I'm no one of consequence. ;)

The subject of pro sales came up over at matociquala's LJ.

I've just started submitting stories to magazines, and I've read a little bit about SFWA, the Campbell Award, and the qualifications for pro sales. I notice that some of my friends will get one pro sale, but only one, for some stretch of time. (They're still writing and submitting, but it's just not happening.) This puts them into the pool of Campbell nominees, but maybe a little prematurely to actually have a shot at the award.

So, the questions: Which choices did you make that most directly led to your winning the Campbell? Did you shoot for pro sales immediately, or did you submit first to semi-pro markets (or smaller) that you thought were a better fit for your story? Is there any benefit to staying non-pro with your short stories to build your reputation within the field until, say, you have a contract for a novel or story collection, or at least a solid chance at one?

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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 17:16 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Another one which will require more answering later. Watch this space...
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User: joycemocha
Date: 2007-07-19 16:06 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I know Jay from cons, but I'll intro myself a little bit for those who don't know me.

Middle-aged wannabe writer with small nonfiction publishing credentials (including a stint writing a column for the campus newspaper--for pay--while earning my teaching credential in a full-time Master's program). Could go further with nonfiction but it's too much like my day job (middle school special ed, I'm not a saint, don't tell me I'm one because I get annoyed by that). Horse girl, only mostly Western variant instead of the dressage that seems to be common (someday I'll do a fantasy with Californio bridle horses and reining horses instead of dressage horsies!). Skier.

Question for Jay--Elsewhere, I've read that at least one author writes thank yous for each and every rejection. What do you think of that? (I just did one for a personalized and positive novel rejection, I'm not about to do it for every "Dear Author" one I get).
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 17:15 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Well, I will often thank an editor if I know them in real life. Honestly, otherwise it's just more mail. I have trouble seeing where that would be worth it, with the possible exception of an invited story to a closed market, which then got rejected. That last only for the sake of the relationship, really.
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jenntheamazon
User: jenntheamazon
Date: 2007-07-19 16:37 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Hey Jay, how is the most fantasterific toastmaster extraordinaire! (Was that too over the top? nah...)

I'm so excited. My library I work at just got a copy of Mainspring in, and I am the first lucky customer to get to break its spine...err...check it out. I plan on trying to get through the first couple chapters on my lunch break.

Can we say "Giddy?" Oh yeah.
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Jay Lake: writing-Mainspring
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 17:14 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:writing-Mainspring
:: book love ::
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biomekanic
User: biomekanic
Date: 2007-07-19 16:43 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Hi I met you at Jaycon, which I attended with newroticgirl, where my shirt met your approval.

Here's my question: Where's a good starting point to read your stuff?
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 17:14 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Mmmm. Wow.

Greetings From Lake Wu, or possible Rocket Science.

Or you could hit these links:

http://jlake.com/index.html#short_fiction
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sheelangig
User: sheelangig
Date: 2007-07-19 16:44 (UTC)
Subject: questions

Anything? Really and truly ANYTHING? Are you stark raving mad?

Oh, I just noticed. You didn't say you'd answer. You, you, . . . tease, you.

Hrmph-mmph.
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Jay Lake: flowers_wasp
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 17:13 (UTC)
Subject: Re: questions
Keyword:flowers_wasp
Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha........!!!!!!!!!!
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Keffy
User: kehrli
Date: 2007-07-19 16:57 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Here's one:

What did the butter boy ribbons at Norwescon mean? Lisa grabbed one at your reading, I think. I put it on my badge, but didn't bother actually thinking about it until later. (Way later.)
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 17:12 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
They were from RadCon, where I was Toastmaster. My minions were Butter Boys and Jam Girls.
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User: (Anonymous)
Date: 2007-07-19 17:04 (UTC)
Subject: re
You seem to travel a lot, often to Omaha--what do you do for your day job?

Doug Chapman
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-07-19 17:11 (UTC)
Subject: Re: re
Hey Doug. I'm a technical marketer for a telecommunications company. Basically that's a combination of sales, marketing, writing and a wee bit of engineering.
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