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Jay Lake
Date: 2007-08-19 14:06
Subject: [politics] "The War as We Saw It"
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Tags:iraq, politics
New York Times op-ed piece concerning the Iraq war, written by a group of infantrymen and NCOs from the 82nd Airborne.

It ought to be a lot harder to say these guys hate America and don't support the troops, but I'm pretty sure my friends on the Right will come through in the clutch even though the facts are biased against them.
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ericjamesstone
User: ericjamesstone
Date: 2007-08-20 06:35 (UTC)
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An interesting perspective from some of the soldiers who have served in Iraq. As a friend of yours on the right, though, I'm sorry to disappoint you by refusing to claim that these guys hate America and don't support the troops.

I don't doubt that these guys have seen things that are discouraging, but I hope they are wrong about the large picture of what's going on in Iraq.
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sheelangig
User: sheelangig
Date: 2007-08-20 15:21 (UTC)
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And, I would not hope they are wrong, I wish to hell that there are wrong.

But, to all appearances, they are not wrong, no matter what I want or hope for.
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sheelangig
User: sheelangig
Date: 2007-08-20 15:17 (UTC)
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Who would know better than they?
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ericjamesstone
User: ericjamesstone
Date: 2007-08-20 16:46 (UTC)
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> Who would know better than they?

It is certainly possible that officers at a higher level might have a better idea of what the overall situation in Iraq is, compared to the view of soldiers in one unit. Of course, it is also possible that the higher level officers are not getting a good enough idea of what things are like at the bottom, in which case these soldiers do know better. My point is merely that one cannot be certain that lower echelon troops have a better grasp of the overall situation than officers who have access to a wider range of information.
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