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Jay Lake
Date: 2007-09-28 17:32
Subject: [poll] Schools and houses for $400
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Tags:child, lj, personal, poll
Having spent part of the day at the_child's school, I was thinking about educational systems. She goes to a Waldorf school (Steiner school if you're European). I myself have a rather checkered primary and secondary educational history, with nine schools in twelve years on three continents.

So I'm curious to take an entirely unscientific sampling of the readers of this blog, concerning your childhood education and domiciles. Feel free to elaborate in comments!

Poll #1062961 What sort of education did you have?

What kind of school(s) did you go to?

Public
93(50.8%)
Waldorf/Steiner
0(0.0%)
Montessori
0(0.0%)
Other Alternative Curriculum
1(0.5%)
International School
0(0.0%)
Prep
2(1.1%)
Catholic
4(2.2%)
Evangelical Christian
0(0.0%)
Madras
0(0.0%)
Other Religious
0(0.0%)
Boarding School
0(0.0%)
Year-Round School
0(0.0%)
Home School
0(0.0%)
Non-US School (American system)
0(0.0%)
Non-US School (British system)
3(1.6%)
Non-US School (other system)
3(1.6%)

Where did you live?

Same home town all the way through
22(12.0%)
Moved some
7(3.8%)
Moved a lot
3(1.6%)
Here in the US
5(2.7%)
The United Kingdom
0(0.0%)
Elsewhere in the Anglosphere
1(0.5%)
Elsewhere in the world
0(0.0%)
Small town
0(0.0%)
Big city
0(0.0%)
Military base
0(0.0%)
Ex-pat compound
0(0.0%)
Apartment
0(0.0%)
Urban house
0(0.0%)
Suburban house
0(0.0%)
Out in the country
0(0.0%)
Something else entirely
0(0.0%)
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Rose Fox
User: rosefox
Date: 2007-09-29 00:54 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I chose "Other Alternative Curriculum" because I attended the Hunter College Campus Schools, which, although technically free public schools, had entrance exams (yes, the elementary school too!) and were run by the Board of Higher Education rather than the plain ol' Board of Ed. I was there from 1st to 12th grade, excepting 5th grade, which I spent at a public school in a small town upstate. Got the hell out of there as fast as I could, let me tell you.

My nursery school was run by a Presbyterian church, but there was no religious instruction. Kindergarten was Public School 41.
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Rose Fox
User: rosefox
Date: 2007-09-29 00:56 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Actually, I'm not sure how to categorize that nursery school, since it doesn't fall under "religious" but it wasn't a public school or any of the other private school options you give.
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S. Boyd Taylor
User: sboydtaylor
Date: 2007-09-29 01:04 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I'm gonna end up throwing your curve off, Jay. I lived all over Texas, and then in Turkey (in an American Compound at an International School, run by an American church (but they couldn't evangelize, due to law)), and then in Scotland at a private school after my mom joined the military.

I can try to remember what checkmarks I made, if you need to take me out of the statistical model...
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User: ex_truepenn
Date: 2007-09-29 01:11 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:otter
Nah, he can just average you with me: U.S. small town public school, the same school system all the way K through 12.
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Patron Saint of Pessimism
User: woodrunner
Date: 2007-09-29 01:24 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Though I checked Catholic, it was French Roman Catholic, with its separate school board in Canada.
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The Earth Goat
User: earthgoat
Date: 2007-09-29 01:32 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I lived in the same house from K-12 but went to three different school systems. Private Catholic, rural public schools, and Catholic college prep.
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sdn
User: sdn
Date: 2007-09-29 01:35 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
i want to know what a madras school is.

signed, suburban public schools in the same town where my dad still lives
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-09-29 04:39 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Madras = Islamic religious school.
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ellarien: Home
User: ellarien
Date: 2007-09-29 01:56 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Home
My primary schools were public (British), but my secondary school was something -- fee-paying, "independent", not specifically religious, but not really an alternative curriculum -- that doesn't seem to be covered in your options.
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Kevin Standlee: Family
User: kevin_standlee
Date: 2007-09-29 02:29 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Family
I checked "military" as the closest thing to a succession of US Forest Service bases that I could come up with on your poll.
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John
User: djonn
Date: 2007-09-29 02:39 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I'm another absurdly stable datapoint; my parents bought their first house the year I turned three years old, and are still living there. As a result, I went straight through K-12 without moving once, from grade school (1-6) to junior high (7-9) to high school (10-12).

Kindergarten was private, as that was before the days of public kindergarten, but I don't recall it fitting any of the listed subcategories. OTOH, one of my kindergarten classmates -- who turned up again much later, in high school -- often related the story that the kindergarten teacher, when she wanted a break, would periodically have me read the daily storybook to the class before we got our naps....

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Twilight: Mame2
User: twilight2000
Date: 2007-09-29 02:44 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Mame2
And another outlying data point heard from. I checked the first 4 -- I went to a montessori nursery school, a summerhill/steiner model grade school, public jr. high and an alternative arts program housed in the public high school -- while moving amongst 3 different cities and 4 different houses in that time :>.

Viva la differançe!
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jedinemo
User: jedinemo
Date: 2007-09-29 04:52 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
For junior high and high school I attended schools in the Los Angeles Unified School District. My high school had 3600 students in grades 10-12, and was very racially diverse. Besides a fine education ( I graduated with 35 AP units), I've always felt my experiences there in the multi-cultural environment prepared me well to negotiate life.
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russ: polska walczy
User: goulo
Date: 2007-09-29 06:51 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:polska walczy
Your option "Here in the US" seems to be making assumptions about your readership. :)
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-09-29 14:25 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Yes, I realized that shortly after I posted the poll. Unfortunately it's impossible to edit LJ polls, and people had already started answering. Hell *I* didn't go to school in the US for the most part.
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User: eljaydaly
Date: 2007-09-29 08:14 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
My parents pulled me out of public school in the third grade and put me in a one-room schoolhouse in a basement until high school. I kid you not. I spent 4th through 8th grades in a class of five kids. It was run by two little old ladies.

It turned me into a badly socialized puppy.
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sdn
User: sdn
Date: 2007-10-01 13:04 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
what on earth were they thinking?
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mevennen
User: mevennen
Date: 2007-09-29 09:29 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I went to a girls' grammar school (UK, same town all through).
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muneraven
User: muneraven
Date: 2007-09-29 13:24 (UTC)
Subject: Small town (s) 7 miles apart
I counted them as the same hometown even though they really were not. One school district change in 13 years of school with a distance factor of less than ten miles just didn't seem like it qualified for moving a little. LOL.

You know what's scary? I called my high school twenty years after I graduated and the school secretary remembered me. :-O
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Gary Emenitove
User: garyomaha
Date: 2007-09-29 13:47 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I was surprised at the jump from "small town" to "big city" -- I'd say the place I grew up (Council Bluffs, IA, pop around 50,000, most consider it a suburb of Omaha) was neither "small" nor "big." (FWIW, I chose "small" because it had a smaller feel even though it was/is part of a larger metro area.)

See? You can't please anyone.

OBTW, I went to only two school buildings from K-12: they built a new junior high and it morphed into the new senior high the year I went from jr. to sr., so it was only that place and a single elementary school for me. And the same house the whole time. Boring, I know.
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Kevin Roche
User: kproche
Date: 2007-10-01 17:15 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I'd agree that there's a gap there. I moved from San Jose (big city) to Redding (small city, but not small town).

My mom, on the other hand, moved from Bimidji (small town in Minnesota) to Trona (small town in the Mojave Desert) to Berkeley (big city).

Definite differences in experience, there.
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Elizabeth Coleman
User: criada
Date: 2007-09-29 17:13 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I'm adding the addendum to my otherwise boring stable life that in 4th grade, I spent three months living with my grandparents in Montana and going to school there. Apparantly my grades dropped, probably because I'd just developed petit mal epilepsy and was distracted by the constant noise in my classroom. (It was two rooms in one, separated by a thin divider open on each end. My first class was 4th/5th split, and then I was moved to the other class. It was stressful, so my parents shipped me away to get better. But I was pretty miserable in the really, really small town of Stevensville. I've no idea why I was miserable-- probably because I was a spoiled brat who hated change. And suddenly I had to ride a school bus for an hour every day. In Poulsbo, I lived within walking distance of elementary school, junior and senior high.
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eddvick
User: eddvick
Date: 2007-09-29 19:58 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I got to check quite a few boxes myself. Alternative Curriculum? The "Mae Carden Method" school, check. Catholic? You mean there are people in the world who didn't learn Latin, check. And so on.
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Simon Haynes
User: halspacejock
Date: 2007-10-01 11:59 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Eleven schools on two continents here. The bulk of it in Spain, with spanish teachers & schoolmates.
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Sean P. Fodera
User: delkytlar
Date: 2007-10-01 13:59 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I attended private Catholic schools from 1st grade through college. I did attend a public Kindergarten, but Kindergarten in those days wasn't exactly "school". It was more like daycare.

We lived in two different homes, all in the same borough of NYC while I was in grade school and high school. Just as I entered college, my parents moved to a new house back in our old neighborhood.

If it is relevent to your totals, I somehow missed the "Here in the U.S." check box, but can't seem to go back to add a response for it.
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Renee Babcock
User: renegade500
Date: 2007-10-01 15:30 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Like most of your readers, I'm a product of public education. Because my dad was in the Air Force, we moved around A LOT when I was a kid. I was living in Tokyo when I became of school age, so I went to school on base. But I do remember that about once a week, we did some cultural exchange activities at a local Japanese school - Japanese language lessons, flower arranging, other stuff I'm sure I don't remember.

I do remember the cafeteria of this school - it was huge, and noisy and happy and filled with lots of Japanese kids our age all wearing uniforms. To be honest I recall that the 5 year old in me thought they all looked very much alike and being intruiged by the uniforms.

After we came back to the states my education was far more mundane.
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Menolly
User: nolly
Date: 2007-10-01 23:18 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I went to a nursery school in north Alabama, which may have met in a church, but I don't remember enough about it to speak authoritatively. We played, colored, sang songs...the usual activities.

When it became kindergarten time, we'd moved to south Mississippi, and in the district, at that time, there were no public kindergartens -- they started a small pilot program when I was in 3rd grade. Therefore, I went to a private church-run kindergarten. Because my birthday was a few weeks past the public school deadline, I did this for two years, but we doing mostly 1st grade level work or higher the second year. My mother was the teacher.

1st-3rd grade, which was two years, beause they skipped me from 1st to 2nd a month or two in to the year was in a public school. The main building was an open floor plan, with rolling bulletin boards dividing the classroom areas. 1st and 3rd grade were in temporary buildings. We changed classes from 1st grade up -- homeroom, Language Arts, Math, Science & Health, but all the teachers taught all the subjects. I'm not really sure what the point of this system was.

Then we moved to North Carolina. 4-6th grade, I was in combination classes. The two grades in the room didn't do much, if anything together -- I think PE, maybe music/art/extra science. (We had a travelling science teacher who did Mr. Wizard type science in addition to our normal classroom textbook science.) The teacher would work with one half of the class while the other half worked independently or with the teacher's aide, switching back and forth.

Junior High (7-9) and 10th grade were relatively normal, I think; we didn't move, and I don't think anything was especially unusual about those schools.

I went the NCSSM from 11th and 12th grades -- the first statewide public residential magnet school for science and math in the country, though several others existed by the time I was there. They're alll schools of math and science, though -- we're the only school of S&M to my knowledge. :)
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Chris McKitterick: Earth-from-space
User: mckitterick
Date: 2007-10-02 07:44 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Earth-from-space
I think I checked just about every option in the second list. (Yes, I grew up in the military during the Vietnam era, why do you ask? *g*)
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