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Jay Lake
Date: 2007-11-30 15:15
Subject: [links] Link salad, Friday freebie
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Karl Rove revises history — Discussing the history of the Iraq War. The man's sheer gall is breath taking. Money shot:
He went on to paint a picture of a White House pushed into war, and laid the blame for much of what has happened since on a Congress that had "made things move too fast."

And people wonder why I think the way I do about conservatives.

Very weird Sony ad for the Playstation 3

Turbine-powered 1972 Dodge Charger being built in Sweden — :: wants ::

Is RU-486 a murder weapon? — Wow. Just wow.
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Andrew Trembley
User: bovil
Date: 2007-11-30 23:30 (UTC)
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Apparently the Charger has a Boing engine. Doctorow, Jardin, Pescovitz and Frauenfelder have their fingers in everything!

Back when Dodge was actually testing a Diesel Turbine engine my Dad was in college. In Superior, WI. He sent them a letter trying to convince them that he should get one of their evaluation prototypes because it would be a really good harsh-weather test.
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Kelly Green
User: saycestsay
Date: 2007-12-01 00:32 (UTC)
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A couple comments about the RU-486 thing.

1. So a man could get the pill? Apparently several times (suspicious miscarriages.) When it's damned near impossible for a woman to get regular old birth control these days?

2. The pill itself just makes the body ready for miscarriage. Follow-up shots at a doctor's office is required before the miscarriage actually happens.

3. Giving fetus as much status as the mother in a homicide investigation just boggles the mind. It is a specific rollback of female rights.

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User: lordofallfools
Date: 2007-12-01 14:21 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I believe the guy ordered the pill from a pharmaceutical supplier located in India.

Aha-- Link detailing details

From the Salon article:

If the charge is for action against the fetus, not the mother, then what is the difference between him slipping her the pill and her taking the pill of her own volition?

Not very much, according to this summary of the Wisconsin law (provided in the link in the Salon article):

Wis. Stat. § 940.04 (2), et seq. declares that any person who intentionally destroys the life of an unborn quick child; or causes the death of the mother by an act done with intent to destroy the life of an unborn child. It is unnecessary to prove that the fetus was alive when the act so causing the mother's death was committed.

It seems a little out of context, though; I have to wonder what precedes the summarized paragraph.

Giving fetus as much status as the mother in a homicide investigation just boggles the mind. It is a specific rollback of female rights.

I don't know about that. It seems to me that it's a specific recognition of the fetus' right to life.
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Coffee Shop Whore
User: skidspoppe
Date: 2007-12-01 06:26 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Thought you should see this. If they only made it in a Hawaiian print, huh?
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User: blakehutchins
Date: 2007-12-01 08:12 (UTC)
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Jesus H. Christ. Reading that Rove quote just about makes my head explode. In fact, it's...nah. Not quite, but there's a heckuva headache.
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Danny Adams
User: madwriter
Date: 2007-12-02 21:28 (UTC)
Subject: Rove quote
I don't know why I'm surprised anymore. When George Bush can say that he "can't remember" (Reagan defense) why they didn't send more troops to Iraq in 2003, when the White House spokespeople claim we didn't support Israel when they bombed Lebanon last year because the liberal press was clamoring so hard against it, and when the White House goes back and changes old White House webpages and claims that's the way they always were (until somebody shows them otherwise via the Internet Archive or Google), revisionist history seems like part of the platter for them.
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