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Jay Lake
Date: 2008-01-02 12:24
Subject: [personal] New Year's Open Thread
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Location:Nuevo Rancho Lake
Mood:busy
Music:house noises
Tags:lj, personal
It's a new year. I'm a new man. (Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.) Consider this an open thread to ask me whatever you want1. Interesting questions (or answers) are subject to being promoted to their own post.




1. &mdash This includes things you've asked previously that I might have failed to address, or things I promised to blog about but have not yet done so.
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Willis Couvillier
User: will_couvillier
Date: 2008-01-02 21:18 (UTC)
Subject: Writing Style
Ok, please allow me to begin...

Do you find that a writer's style is influenced by the work of his/her favorite author?

I love the work of Lovecraft. I grew up with it, as well as the work of Burroughs and Poe. It's taken me most of my writing life to weed that romantic era style off of my work. Influences isn't necessarily a positve thing.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-02 23:21 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Writing Style
Do you find that a writer's style is influenced by the work of his/her favorite author?

I think so, but like everything else in this field, that varies significantly with the writer. You can see Clark Ashton Smith in the work of kenscholes, and I'm pretty sure you can see Gene Wolfe looming behind my own.

I'm not sure you need to weed that romantic era style, unless you're aspiring to something very different. To a very real extent, we write what we read.
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Rafe
User: etcet
Date: 2008-01-02 21:22 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Where did "The Shirt Thing" germinate? (as someone known widely in very obscure circles for certain of my more.... outre`... attire, I'm just wondering what different others come to the same end by)
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-02 23:23 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I don't rightly recall now. It began more or less by accident -- I happen to find aloha shirts quite comfortable, and their cut doesn't make me look like Moby Dick, unlike, say, golf shirts or rugby shirts. At World Horror in Seattle (2002?) I realized that I stood out like a tomato in an olive bin amid all the black leather and dark velvet. After that, it became a conscious theme.
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Rafe
User: etcet
Date: 2008-01-02 21:26 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
In completely other news....

Other than "Story of Your Life," what's a current fistful of Lake's Faves on the cusp of '08? (genre, length, and such are immaterial)
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-02 23:24 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Daniel Abraham's Long Price quartet, which in a just world would be sweeping major awards. Also Spaceman Blues by Brian Slattery, and Lamentation by Ken Scholes, forthcoming in 2009. The short work of M.K. Hobson and Ken Scholes, as well.
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russ: quo vadis
User: goulo
Date: 2008-01-02 21:44 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:quo vadis
Did you ever explain that recent reference to racism and sausage or whatever the heck it was?
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-02 23:27 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I was standing in a crowd at the Edelweiss German deli, waiting to buy some salami for a Christmas party. (To go with the cheese, you see, they have the best meat selection in town.)

A guy next to me commented that this was nothing like what you'd see in Europe at a deli. The guy next to him said he was originally from Croatia, but this was as close as he could come to food from home.

We chatted about cured meat for a moment, then the Croatia guy said, well, yes, we weren't going to have these kind of shops much longer if white people didn't have more kids pretty quick. The other guy agreed, and said he'd done his part.

I was utterly nonplussed at this bizarre racist turn in the conversation, how out of context it was, and especially how it seemed to be so normal for these two characters.

Standing in a very crowded line at the deli didn't seem to be the time to start fighting for social justice (ok, I'm a pussy), so I just shut up while the two of them nattered on about the evils of immigration and little brown people.
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User: tsheehan
Date: 2008-01-02 22:30 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Well, since you're being so generous with your time…

You linked to my blog post rant on disorganization in the publishing world (wherein I stated I was boggled by how an editor can lose your manuscript, forget to send the contract, etc) and mentioned you had something to add to it. Erm, any chance of that?

pee ess: the post was Writing vs Biz, it's in the archives of my blog (tamarasheehan.wordpress.com), if you want a refresher.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-02 23:29 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I'm going to have to go trolling for the original post and see if I can (re)jog my memory.
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jeffsoesbe: conehead beldar
User: jeffsoesbe
Date: 2008-01-02 22:30 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:conehead beldar
Whatever happened with the old-fashioned white car you bought (or were going to buy) and the license plate contest? I think I missed any wrap-up on that.

- yeff
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-02 23:28 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Getting it back from the mechanic today! The old plates are coming in the mail, though I don't have the title yet due to some confusion on the part of the seller. I'll have photos and other updates in a week or so.
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Zhaneel
User: zhaneel69
Date: 2008-01-02 22:37 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Not so much a question, just a general statement: Miss you!
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-02 23:28 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Aww. Miss you, too.
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jeffsoesbe: yulbrynner kingandi
User: jeffsoesbe
Date: 2008-01-02 22:59 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:yulbrynner kingandi
OK, another one: Back in this post, you commented on the desire to talk about "Auctorial observations on the differences between short stories and novels".

I think you've expounded on this some in the discussion about how you are "unpacking" pieces of a short story into the novel _Green_.

So in general, what do you think are the differences between "short fiction writer's mind" and "novel writer's mind" based on your experiences as a prolific generator of both?

(I'm not sure how much of a question this is, I think I'm just mainly trolling for some meandering mental meditation from you that I, an aspiring short fiction dude, can learn from...)

Thanks!

- yeff
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-02 23:29 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
That one's going to take more time than I have at this moment, but, um, yes.
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Andrew
User: carnwrite
Date: 2008-01-03 01:47 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Any chance of an updated bibliography on jlake.com? You've been a busy man since the last update. No hurry :)
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-04 14:40 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Yah, it needs to happen. I managed to pull together a fairly complete list of 2007 appearances on this blog recently. Now I just need to work back and detail it out. Not til after Green is done, though.
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jenntheamazon
User: jenntheamazon
Date: 2008-01-03 02:28 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
What do you think will be your biggest accomplishment for 2008? And do you think you're convention appearance list could get any bigger? (LOL, I'm kidding of course! I can't wait to see you in February!)
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-04 14:40 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
What do you think will be your biggest accomplishment for 2008?

Writing two more books. I'm really trying to hold myself accountable for that.

And yes, it will be great to see you! Hopefully I won't chip a tooth this year.
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User: bigdumbobject
Date: 2008-01-03 09:39 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Can you give me (another) piece of writerly advice to inspire me for 2008? My writing in 2007 sloped off into a void of despair and under-achievement.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-03 16:22 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I'll see if I can be pithy later. In the mean time, this might be interesting:

http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/?p=890
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Marguerite Croft
User: albionidaho
Date: 2008-01-03 21:45 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Elizabeth Bear commented today that she has finished "Your Collar", though she is not sure that it has the best ending possible.

I've run into this sort of thing, as well, where I have finished a story, but am not sure it has the best ending, or that the plot hasn't evolved in the best way for the story (if that makes any sense), etc.

Have you experienced this in the past? If so, what do you do? Has this practiced evolved since your have developed your new process?

Yes, several questions there, but I hope you will take pity :).
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Jay Lake: writing-bookmobile
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-04 14:42 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:writing-bookmobile
Another one which I will need to come back to at some small length, I am afraid. Unless you will be satisfied with "yes".
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jeffsoesbe: bald man coffee mug on head
User: jeffsoesbe
Date: 2008-01-04 03:54 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:bald man coffee mug on head
And here's a semi-practical writely one, rather than a philosophical one:

If I put a story on my LJ/blog and make it everyone-readable (rather than friend-locked), have I essentially given away my first publication rights (and thus could never really submit it anywhere)? What about if it's friend-locked?

I'm curious about this one, as I'm starting to do more "work-in-progress" and "fiction" blog entries.

Thanks much!

- yeff
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-04 14:44 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
If it's publicly readable, most editors will consider that first publication. Excerpts and WIPs are no big deal, because they are a fraction of the work. I am actually pretty careful about the WIPs I post, and avoid critical plot points, for example.

I would argue that locked posts do not count as publication, any more than sending an mss for crit does, but that might be a somewhat shaky proposition. The tighter (ie smaller) the lock, the better
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Lawrence M. Schoen: PaperGolem
User: klingonguy
Date: 2008-01-04 15:50 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:PaperGolem
Aren't you sending me something by the end of December? It's a time travel piece, right?
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-04 15:53 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Yes, I'll be post-dating it.
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dinogrl: smacked by a snowball
User: dinogrl
Date: 2008-01-05 05:35 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:smacked by a snowball
So, my Spike wants to know who the heck is this Spike you refer to in "music", and why does this Spike snore? He thinks he's the only one that does that. Then again he thinks he owns this house, and the people who occupy it too. (He's right of course.)
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Jay Lake: jay-Adrienne
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-01-05 17:33 (UTC)
Subject: Who is this Spike?
Keyword:jay-Adrienne
Spike
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