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Jay Lake
Date: 2008-06-12 05:55
Subject: [links] Link salad for a Thursday
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Tags:books, cancer, healthcare, links, mainspring, oregon, personal, politics, religion

A reader reacts to Mainspring [ Powell's | Amazon thb | Audible ]

Bloggasm reports on my cancer, erm, reportage — A thoughtul interview with me by nomissnewo. kenscholes says a bit more about it here.

the_flea_king visits the Oregon Coast — Check his photos of Ecola State Park. If they don’t make you want to visit here, your aesthetic sense is dead.

madwriter asks an important political question — I’m curious what my conservative friends think of this.

The Social Gospel — A different Christian approach to politics and public life.

Why Is Bush Helping Saudi Arabia Build Nukes? — Right. Because the Saudis never did anything bad for us. It was all those Iraqi hijackers on 9/11, and that devilish Iraqi bin Laden.

Republicans will “win” if they hold on to 41 Senate seats this fall — O Permanent Majority, where hast thou fled to? Good thing those dastardly Democrats didn’t succeed in their evil “nuclear option” plan to derail Senate minority powers by eliminating the filibuster!

Health insurance falling short — Mmm, market forces come through once again! What a shock. Also, this just in, liberals say sun rises in east, GOP suspects Communist plot. It would be so cute, what conservatives believe, if conservative policies weren’t killing people by the tens of thousands.

6/12/08
Time in saddle: 0 minutes (still recovering from surgery)
Last night’s weigh-out: n/a
This morning’s weigh-in: 259.6
Currently reading: The Alchemy of Stone by Ekaterina Sedia [ Amazon ]

Originally published at jlake.com. You can comment here or there.

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J.K.Richárd
User: neutronjockey
Date: 2008-06-12 15:37 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Mainspring...very preachy?

I felt it was actually very neutral-toned...even Christian-Friendly.

*shrug*
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-06-12 16:32 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Which is curious, given my personal beliefs...

Repeat after me: the writer is not the story.
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J.K.Richárd
User: neutronjockey
Date: 2008-06-12 16:37 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I mean, am I wrong in what I read in Mainspring?

I saw the fun being poked on a few sides of the fence, but overall I felt it was very pro-Christian and very pro-Creator --- which is not very Jay Lake.

Granted...it was a clockwork Messiah...

(and there was hot monkey love...)
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-06-12 16:46 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Nope, not wrong at all. I talk about this in a SCIFI.COM interview which will be out shortly -- the one place where the book's theology veers sharply from at least some versions of everyday Christian theology is in the underlying assumption that while God's handiwork is present in Creation, God Himself is completely absent. (However, not all the characters believe that.)
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Carcinogenic Muffin
User: zomgitskristin
Date: 2008-07-12 00:54 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I actually meant that it was preachy in terms of the environmentalism. Sorry, that wasn't a very clearly made point. I thought the religious themes were pretty awesome. Though I'm not sure my born again mother-in-law would agree with the Christian-friendly assessment.

(Apologies for replying to an old comment. I'm late to the prom.)
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sheelangig
User: sheelangig
Date: 2008-06-12 16:27 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Jay, I want to ask you a question and you don't currently have one of those open question thingies going. At your pleasure, of course.

How do you manage to maintain your energy in regards to politics?

Whine, bitch, moan, complain, details don't really matter, but insert story about dealing with aggravating relative about politics, blah, blah, bleah.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-06-13 02:48 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
How do you manage to maintain your energy in regards to politics?

Sheer outrage. I wasn't nearly as strong in my opinions during the Clinton presidency. Even when my passions returned to me in November and December of 2000, I was low key for quite a while for fear of seeming unprofessional or unfriendly. I finally decided I to be true to my opinions.
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User: vee_ecks
Date: 2008-06-12 16:41 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
"The Social Gospel — A different Christian approach to politics and public life."

"Different" in what sense? It's still the driving philosophy in mainline American denominations, whether or not the faithful refer to it as such. If you mean "different from Fundamentalism," you do know, right, that Fundamentalist Christianity arose in this country as a direct reaction to widespread acceptance of The Social Gospel?
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-06-12 16:47 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Yes, and modern fundamentalism (or whatever we want to call it) is the dominant face of Christianity in the media narrative and the social narrative of the past 25 years. Which is what I meant by "different", of course.
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Carcinogenic Muffin
User: zomgitskristin
Date: 2008-07-12 01:01 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Wow. I always forget that putting things on the internet means that everyone can read what one has to say. Thanks for the link, though.

I really did enjoy Mainspring, too. There were concepts and characters in it that were outrageously imaginative and engaging.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-07-12 13:48 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I'm glad you liked it, and hope you get a chance to try Escapement.
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