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Jay Lake
Date: 2008-06-12 16:20
Subject: [politics] Everybody’s crazy
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Conservatives are nuts. Has anyone demanded to see John McCain’s birth certificate? The recipe appears to be a) start crazy rumor, b) treat crazy rumor like it was true, c) manufacture outrage concerning crazy rumor to force denials, d) use denials as evidence crazy rumor was true all along. It’s worked since the Clinton years, why should conservatives give up now? ETA: As ericjamesstone points out quite appropriately in comments, the post I linked to is an attempt to deal with teh crazy, not an example of teh crazy. I submit that the fact that the NRO felt a need to make such an attempt is still an example of teh crazy, however.

Conservatives Fair-and-balanced FOX News even more nuts. Obama’s baby mama? Could they be even more patently offensive? Well, yes, probably they could. Also note the deeply inaccurate understanding of urban slang.

Don’t worry, I’ve decided liberal-progressives are crazy too. There’s a lot of snark in the leftie blogosphere right now about how unsuited McCain is to running the country since he can’t use a computer. This is a bogus issue. Relatively few senior leaders past their mid-40s are adept at using personal computers. It simply wasn’t an important business skill when they were younger. I’m pretty sure McCain knows how to a file an original-and-five-copies-forward report on carbons, keeping the canary yellow sheet, because that’s how they did things back when he was commanding a Navy training squadron. So what? Does he need to do either of those things to be president? His qualifications as a commander-in-chief and chief-of-state deserve to be debated on their merits, not on something as silly as a widespread generational difference.

Originally published at jlake.com. You can comment here or there.

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Andrew Trembley
User: bovil
Date: 2008-06-12 23:31 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
To be fair, McCain got socked for being born in the Panama Canal Zone, but as a child of American citizens he's still a "natural born citizen."

On the other hand, we can thank Dan Rather for all the questions about the "modern" look of the birth certificate. Modern look? The preprinted form has a 11/2001 revision date at the bottom. It's a validated copy, just as legit as the one his parents got the day he was born.
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Ruthanne Reid
User: ruthannereid
Date: 2008-06-12 23:34 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Don’t worry, I’ve decided liberal-progressives are crazy too.

Thank you. Thank you, thank you. >_< There once was a time where being "Conservative" meant maybe being a little backwards in social issues, but at least caring about things like the family. Now... holy crazy, Batman. Augh.

I still say we need to just start our own country somewhere. (I wish. XD)
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Karen, aka Ana Lake, ska Aine inghean Cathal
User: summers_place
Date: 2008-06-12 23:53 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Oh, can we please????
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Ruthanne Reid
User: ruthannereid
Date: 2008-06-13 00:16 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
An island would be best, I think. I hear there are man-made islands in production now, actually.

And its name... shall be Axqa.
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jackwilliambell
User: jackwilliambell
Date: 2008-06-12 23:44 (UTC)
Subject: Let me be the first...
Hello. My name is Jack and I am crazy.

P.S. What I am not is a conservative, a progressive/liberal, or anything a libertarian would identify as a 'Libertarian'. So, therefore, I am proof that you can defy labels and still be crazy...
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jackwilliambell
User: jackwilliambell
Date: 2008-06-12 23:50 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Let me be the first...
Dang. I just realized that claiming to be proof of anything is crazy!

What I am is a data point that 'one can defy labels', blah, blah, blah...
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sheelangig
User: sheelangig
Date: 2008-06-13 01:12 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

I think we're all bozos on this bus.

I'm considering just not discussing my politics with anyone anymore. It might be easier.
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ericjamesstone
User: ericjamesstone
Date: 2008-06-13 01:46 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Yes, there are nuts on the conservative side. Let me just point out that Jim Geraghty, the National Review Online columnist you linked to, has been doing working to damp down conspiracy theories regarding Obama (even getting recognized by Daily Kos for doing so).

Geraghty did not, in fact, demand that Obama release his birth certificate. He suggested that it might be a good idea to do so because he's trying to quash the kind of crazy rumors you're complaining about.

So yes, there are crazy conservatives out there, but Jim Geraghty is not one of them.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-06-13 01:50 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
You are absolutely right about Geraghty, and I unintentionally misrepresented my opinion of the NRO link. The need for the link is nuts, however.
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