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Jay Lake
Date: 2008-07-13 20:31
Subject: [politics] Manchurian candidancies
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One of the more ridiculous persistent memes from the Republicans in this election cycle is that idea that Obama is some kind of Manchurian candidate on a secret mission for Islamic terrorism.

Which is a bizarre accusation from a party whose candidate spent five and a half years in a Communist prison camp, signed false confessions for the purposes of anti-American propaganda — quite literally a potential Manchurian candidate.

(To belabor the obvious, I would find such an accusation against McCain to be utterly without merit. I merely point out that his opportunity for brain washing and deep programming was considerably more substantial than Obama’s childhood years in Indonesia.)

Originally published at jlake.com. You can comment here or there.

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User: mythusmage
Date: 2008-07-14 08:00 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Jay, remember back to when the post-op pain was real bad and ask yourself, "If anyone had demanded I say what they wanted me to say, or I would not get my pain medication, would I have told them no?"
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russ: watchmen
User: goulo
Date: 2008-07-14 08:08 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:watchmen
Perhaps Jay is the Manchurian author!
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-07-14 13:18 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
I'm not faulting McCain for his actions in prison. Not in the slightest. I cannot even imagine where my breaking point would lie, but almost certainly I'd have been far weaker than he.

The "Manchurian candidate" meme is ludicrous when it's applied to McCain.

My point was it's even more ludicrous when it's applied to Obama, yet there's a lot of people, most of them staunch McCain defenders, who buy into it with Obama.
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User: csinman
Date: 2008-07-14 08:09 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Thanks. Now I don't have to actually talk to the slack-jawed, mouth-breathing, inbred, moronic baboons who mention this conspiracy theory to me--I'll just link them to your post, where they can simultaneously learn why they're slack-jawed, mouth-breathing, inbred, moronic baboons, and what I think of them. Twice.
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paulcarp
User: paulcarp
Date: 2008-07-14 15:31 (UTC)
Subject: It's easier
If you just interpret all those statements as code for "I fear him because he's black."

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farmgirl1146
User: farmgirl1146
Date: 2008-07-14 17:40 (UTC)
Subject: Re: It's easier
Very true.
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paulcarp
User: paulcarp
Date: 2008-07-15 01:04 (UTC)
Subject: Re: It's easier
Hey, I didn't write that. (mcjulie did)
But I would have.
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User: (Anonymous)
Date: 2008-07-14 17:32 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
One of the more ridiculous persistent memes from the Republicans in this election cycle is that idea that Obama is some kind of Manchurian candidate on a secret mission for Islamic terrorism.

What exactly is your source for this?
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2008-07-14 17:39 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
That one's been all over the blogosphere for months. It comes down to the simple, oft-repeated statement of "How do I know Obama's not a Muslim," which is logically equivalent to "How do I know McCain's not a child molestor" unless you invest some credibility in the idea that he was brainwashed during his childhood in Indonesia and has only maintained a mask of Christian faith through his adult life -- pretty much the Manchurian candidate theory in a nutshell.
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Dave Bara: Bad Name
User: dbara
Date: 2008-07-17 23:53 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Bad Name
Obama was in Indonesia? That's it! I'm voting for Bob Barr!
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