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Jay Lake
Date: 2010-02-19 06:40
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Asian characters on book covers

Apple's Prices for E-Books May Be Lower Than Expected — Hmm.

Vintage robots

My new favorite sign, EVAR — I always thought if telephone psychics were any good, they'd call me up when I needed them.

truepenny elucidates the point I've been reaching for about the resonance between the Tea Partiers and early 1930s German politics — To be perfectly clear, she's not accusing the Tea Party of any moral equivalency to Nazism (and neither am I), she's making observations about political behavior patterns of know-nothingism and negationism which are, of course, available to any ideology. (Though they tend to be conservative behavior patterns, insofar as I can tell. I'm not sure it's possible to be a liberal-progressive and a know-nothingist at the same time.)

Tea Party Lights Fuse for Rebellion on RightBut it is also about the profound private transformation of people like Mrs. Stout, people who not long ago were not especially interested in politics, yet now say they are bracing for tyranny. It's exactly those disinterested voters, kneejerk heartland conservatives for the most part, who helped create the current problems by blindly supporting the GOP through decades of ruinous governance and more ruinous opposition. Now these 'real Americans' blame Obama and the Democrats, yet almost every one of their objections is to Bush administration policies and their outcomes. It was all fine when a white Republican was bailing out the banks and busting the budget, now it's tyranny when a black Democrat inherits the GOP mess.

Sarah Palin and the mutual loathing society — George Will, whom I generally find to be both tendentious and deliberately intellectually dishonest (see his writings on climate change, for which he quite deliberately distorts facts and public record in support of his ideology) with a curiously critical column on Sarah Palin. This is the old GOP fighting with the new, basically.

Palin, Paul and Mount Vernon — Conservative commentator Daniel Larison on constitutionalism and conservatism. ...as far as actual constitutionalists are concerned "limited government" and the "rule of law" are just phrases for national security conservatives and not much more than that. In the eyes of national security conservatives, actual constitutionalists are practically traitors. This is not a gap that can be bridged by shouting, "Constitution!" in a loud voice. Reminding me again why I'm coming to enjoy reading him so much.

Conservatives Sign Hypocritical Declaration — And a leftie view of the same issue. Every single other person who signed that declaration in favor of "limited government" that stuck to its constitutional boundaries, as far as I can tell, was an enthusiastic cheerleader for the Bush administration when it utterly ignored the constitution on issue after issue.

?otD: Do you know where you're going to?

Writing time yesterday: 0 minutes
Body movement: 40 minute suburban walk
Hours slept: 7.5
This morning's weigh-in: 228.0
Yesterday's chemo stress index: 3/10
Currently reading: [between books]

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User: chris_gerrib
Date: 2010-02-19 15:11 (UTC)
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Some of the Granger / Free Silver folks of the 1890s had know-nothing tendencies. Also not sure where I'd put the anarchist movement on the politicial spectrum.

But in general, the negation policy is a right-wing idea. Right wingers are change-adverse, by definition.
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User: ninefly
Date: 2010-02-19 15:23 (UTC)
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thank you for linking my post (asian characters on book covers)! =)
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Brian Dolton
User: tchernabyelo
Date: 2010-02-19 17:24 (UTC)
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The "psychics convention cancelled" is an old joke, and as it looks to be written on a restaurant's daily specials board, I suspect it may be ever so slightly not genuine.
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User: barbarienne
Date: 2010-02-19 19:38 (UTC)
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I'm not sure it's possible to be a liberal-progressive and a know-nothingist at the same time.

-->Sure it is. They're called new-agey fruitcakes.

Plenty of people believe in, for example, green living without understanding the science behind it, and indeed, mistakenly doing things that make it worse.

Don't get me started on the alt-med crowd. Piles of vociferous, evidence-denying stupidity, but generally social liberals.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2010-02-19 19:42 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
You're right. I should know better, given my views on the anti-vax community...
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2010-02-19 19:43 (UTC)
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PS, I'm tempted to respond with a "No true Scotsman" argument, but as someone recently pointed out, that would be sophistry...
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User: barbarienne
Date: 2010-02-19 22:50 (UTC)
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The real distinction is that the fruitcake sort aren't at this time trying to make their fruitcake positions into active public policy. They're not vaccinating their own kids, and by that action are putting others at risk, but they're not successfully lobbying to make vaccinations illegal.

Whereas, alas, the more conservative know-nothings are successfully getting on school boards and trying to destroy science classes from within.

When I was a teenager, I had a t-shirt that said, "Sophists are people too--and I can prove it."
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User: mcjulie
Date: 2010-02-20 16:28 (UTC)
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They're not vaccinating their own kids, and by that action are putting others at risk, but they're not successfully lobbying to make vaccinations illegal.

A highly meaningful distinction, in my mind.

Some of that might be a difference in the liberal vs conservative emotional character -- liberals with nutty ideas are quite happy to see themselves as defying the conventional wisdom and mainstream institutions, while conservatives with nutty ideas have that right wing authoritarian desire to see everyone marching in lock step with their nutty ideas.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2010-02-20 16:39 (UTC)
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Another distinction I'd make about know-nothingism on the Left and Right is that on the Right it seems to be folded into the narraive with enthusiasm. The Left generally rejects it. Anti-vax doesn't have a following or support outside the immediate community of believers. Evolution denial, on the other hand, receives support and encouragement across the Right as a vote-getting effort.
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User: ulfhirtha
Date: 2010-02-19 23:09 (UTC)
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Timothy Ferris' recent article on the Liberal-Totalitarian and Progressive-Conservative xy axes may be instructive on this point as well.
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Max Kaehn: Zonk
User: slothman
Date: 2010-02-19 19:46 (UTC)
Subject: AotD
I’m going to lunch, and then back to my desk, and at the end of the workday, home to the wife and cats and Dragon Age.
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Sue Burke
User: mount_oregano
Date: 2010-02-19 21:12 (UTC)
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"Death to intelligence!" Fascists actually shouted this in Spain.
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Danny Adams
User: madwriter
Date: 2010-02-21 21:57 (UTC)
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By the way, did you see the results of the "2012 presidential voting" at the annual Republican PAC convention in D.C. this past week? Granted only a quarter of the attendees voted, but it came out something like--

Ron Paul -- 31%
Mitt Romney -- 12%
Sarah Palin -- 7%

I don't know if this is any kind of accurate reflection of the attendees, though, or (like many of the state primaries) Paul fans getting out and being heard.
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