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Jay Lake
Date: 2010-02-24 05:58
Subject: [politics] A little trip down memory lane for bipartisanship
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Tags:healthcare, politics
There's a lot of whining from the GOP lately about bipartisanship around HCR and other issues, including the (often used by the GOP in the past) reconciliation process to pass a bill through the Senate without invoking cloture. The liberal media dutifully covers this without much analysis, and millions of conservatives dutifully get angry at these unprecedented uses of majority power.

Unlike the entire conservative movement of 2010, I vividly recall the Bush years. There was this little thing called "the Permanent Majority". Anyone else remember it? Or Trent Lott and "the Nuclear Option" in the Senate. Remember that? How about "Unilateral Bipartisanship", admittedly a 1998 phenomenon, as Democrat Barney Frank referred to Republican Henry Hyde's characterization of a a strict party line vote on Clinton's impeachment as "bipartisan". But the spirit was certainly present during the Bush years.

Hey, Republicans. You'd better be damned glad the Democrats are too consensus oriented to treat you the way your majorities treated them. It might be nice if you could remember back past the last election cycle, too, when bitching about Obama's deficits, foreign wars and Wall Street bailouts. Because those cardinal sins? Committed by Republicans, first and bigger. Just like majoritarian rule was all the rage when you were in the majority. I know, it's hard, but really, you used to run the world. Permanent Majority? Remember?

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User: threeoutside
Date: 2010-02-24 14:07 (UTC)
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I was very pleased to hear them on NPR this morning tackle this precise issue. They played some sound clips of present day Repubs warning that it's the coming of the Apocalypse, this new, terrible thing called "reconciliation process," and then they detailed all of those occurrences you named plus some more, complete with sound clips of then-times Repubs gleefully invoking it themselves. It was straight reporting, too. I guess they figured it's obvious enough it didn't need anyone pointing out how ludicrous (not to mention hypocritical) the Repub's current gnashing of teeth is.
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User: mcjulie
Date: 2010-02-24 16:24 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Unlike the entire conservative movement of 2010, I vividly recall the Bush years

"We have always been at war with Oceania"

That is clearly the memo they all got -- including the really, really bizarre attempt to erase 9/11. Or pretend it happened under Clinton. Or something.

The weird thing is how successful they might be with it -- because everybody kind of wants to forget the Bush years. Most of us just because they were painful, the Republicans because they were embarrassing.

It's kind of like a voluntary collective psychosis -- we want the world to be different than it is, so we are going to shut our eyes and stop our ears and curl up into a little ball and pretend just as hard as the human brain is capable of pretending, that the world is different than it is.

Which I think is really where they have common cause with the extreme religious types. Religion can be a way for people to cope with the world as it is - a way to make sense of it, shape it into a narrative, etc. But I think people with sane religious views recognize that you have to start with the world as it is and proceed from there.

Extremists recognize no such thing.

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Kenneth Mark Hoover
User: kmarkhoover
Date: 2010-02-24 16:46 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Haha, there you go again expecting conservatives to be grounded in reality.

Of course they don't remember. It's inefficient to remember when your Tinker Toy ideology is grounded in "Do as we say, not as we do."
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Kari Sperring
User: la_marquise_de_
Date: 2010-02-24 18:17 (UTC)
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you used to run the world.
Furthermore, oh GOP, most of the world did not vote for you, were not eligible to vote in your elections and resented and feared your high-handed behaviour like crazy. The relief and out-pouring of love for Obama that ensued over here when he was elected had to be seen to be believed.
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Danny Adams
User: madwriter
Date: 2010-02-24 20:45 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
You forgot one of my favorite phrases, "The Unitary Executive".
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