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Jay Lake
Date: 2010-11-11 15:39
Subject: [culture] My one comment on the current steampunk kerfuffle
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Tags:culture, media, steampunk, writing
For those of you who complain that the goggles in steampunk do nothing, what, precisely, do the neck ties in Mad Men do?

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Karlita - stepping into my true self
User: manifestress
Date: 2010-11-11 23:51 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
or nipples on men, for that matter
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Max Kaehn: R'lyeh
User: slothman
Date: 2010-11-11 23:53 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
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Hmmm... there should be older begoggled hats, then, with chin straps that would actually keep them from blowing away in a high wind...
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Lisa Deutsch Harrigan: Girl Genius Done
User: lisa_marli
Date: 2010-11-12 00:07 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Girl Genius Done
I have my goggles so I can do Mad Science Things. The fact that I have never, ever done Mad Science Things is immaterial. The fact that I am Ready is what makes it cool.
And goggles on a hat are much more comfortable than a neck tie. :)
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Rafe
User: etcet
Date: 2010-11-12 00:15 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Goggles are for ogling.

Now, if it wasn't for all those blasted petticoats...
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jere7my: Shadow
User: jere7my
Date: 2010-11-12 00:15 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Shadow
They point to the cock, sir. They point to the cock.
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David D. Levine: steampunk
User: davidlevine
Date: 2010-11-12 00:42 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:steampunk
You're wearing your goggles wrong.

Edited at 2010-11-12 12:45 am (UTC)
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Lady A!: Dr Doom Cities Will Crumble
User: accioayla
Date: 2010-11-12 00:37 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Dr Doom Cities Will Crumble
This. Mind you, when I wear my goggles on my hat and someone flails at me, I point out that they're chronokinetic goggles. Useful only for navigating the time stream. Not like that's going to happen randomly, I'll have time to put them on!
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David D. Levine: steampunk
User: davidlevine
Date: 2010-11-12 00:44 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:steampunk
As I've said elsewhere, goggles are a signifier of a technological level. They indicate that the wearer comes from a time and place where travel has become so rapid that eye protection is needed, but the technology for large glass windscreens does't exist. They also indicate that the wearer is prepared for a dangerous environment.

The necktie, on the other hand, represents that society-as-a-whole maintains a literal stranglehold on even the most powerful men.
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mcjulie
User: mcjulie
Date: 2010-11-12 01:05 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Am I the only person who wants to scream "My Eyes! The goggles do nothing!" in a Rainier Wolfecastle voice?
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jtdiii
User: jtdiii
Date: 2010-11-12 04:05 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
The necktie keeps the shirt clean. After a while it just became decorative and usually worth more than the shirt. But that is Fashion....
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madrobins
User: madrobins
Date: 2010-11-12 04:08 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
In the beginning the necktie held the top of the shirt together without resorting to laces or something like that. By the time you get to Mad Men they were simply a signifier of formality and respect.

I thought the goggles in steampunk were there to protect the eyes from steam, speed, and perhaps punks.
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User: pauljessup
Date: 2010-11-12 13:12 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Winsauce.

I'm really getting sick of the Steampunk and Urban Fantasy bashing that's become so hip as of late. OH NOES PEOPLE LIKE SOMETHING! IT MUST BE WRONG

-side note- I did do an article criticizing steampunk, but it was out of love, and not wanting to see the genre take up the more negative aspects of Victoriana, even unintentionally
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Gary Emenitove
User: garyomaha
Date: 2010-11-12 18:05 (UTC)
Subject: My Worlds Collide
Wow. jaylake said Mad Men. Now does that show have to refer to Jay (who was just born in the period when the show took place)? Perhaps a reference instead to J.E. Lake senior!
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