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Jay Lake
Date: 2011-11-13 07:39
Subject: [links] Link salad is still sick on Sunday
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My Parents Were Home-Schooling Anarchists — An interesting view of the secular beginnings of a movement that I have always been deeply suspicious of, given the Religious Right's structural child abuse through education denial.

Sun's 'killer flare' won't end earth: NASA — Well, that's a relief.

Living up to Leonardo: The terrifying task of restoring a da Vinci

Could Electronic Communication Cooperatives Protect Us?

Rush-Hour Read: The Power of Public Space for Protest Movements

The values debate we’re not having — Christians talking to Christianists. Good luck with that. The well's long since been poisoned.

Hackgate: Sky News tweets James Murdoch arrested then deletes it

?otD: Do you eat your metaphors with a metafork?

Writing time yesterday: 0.0 hours (chemo fatigue)
Body movement: n/a (too sick)
Hours slept: 10.5 hours (solid)
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Currently (re)reading: Night Watch by Terry Pratchett

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Blair MacGregor
User: blairmacg
Date: 2011-11-13 15:58 (UTC)
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As someone who homeschools for NON-religious reasons, I get jabbed from all sides!
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2011-11-13 16:01 (UTC)
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Data point: I was living in Texas when the home schooling movement really grew legs. In Texas, it was 99% about Evangelicals trying to "protect" their kids by stunting their education and socialization. For years, I assumed this was pretty much what home schooling was about and opposed it strongly on those grounds. I have since been persuade by people like you that I am wrong, but the suspicion of those 1980s and 1990s political battles remains very strong n me.
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Jim Hetley
User: jhetley
Date: 2011-11-13 16:22 (UTC)
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We home-schooled Elder Son for a year due to learning disabilities. Turned out we weren't any better at it than the pros, so we dumped him back into the maelstrom . . .
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Blair MacGregor
User: blairmacg
Date: 2011-11-13 16:34 (UTC)
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I understand, truly. After all, I homeschool in rural Indiana, yet am not part of the local homeschool co-op. That makes me the Devil's handmaid in some circles.

I strongly oppose homeschooling as a means of redacting the real world from a child's education. We homeschool to be *more* expansive in what he learns...and for the early 70's reasons of distrusting the system.
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With all the breaking and all the glueing back
User: danaoshee
Date: 2011-11-16 08:24 (UTC)
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Those were the same years I was in California, getting homeschooled by atheists. In my local group, at least, there was little religion, but various amounts of hippy-ness. (My family was on the less crunchy, more "here, work through all these math textbooks" end, but I had friends on the unschooling end of things.)

In my family, it was about thinking they could do a better educational job than the schools. I was homeschooled completely right up until I started at my local community college 3 week after I turned 16. I think it worked out well, for me.
My brother chose to go to high school (a local fancy charter school) and that was right for him.

Mostly, I think, it's left me with a deep distaste for meaningless busywork and bullshit, and issues with taking authority seriously. Which...puts me right there with all my other geeky friends who went to normal schools.
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User: joycemocha
Date: 2011-11-13 16:42 (UTC)
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Thanks for the homeschooling link, Jay, it's perfect timing for my Education Alternatives panel today!

Good seeing you at Orycon yesterday, btw.

Also, the values debate thing...the deal is, by all definitions of ourselves as Christians, we've got to try to speak truth to the Christianists. It is who and what we are supposed to be. Now too damn often we fail, either in ourselves or in the dialogue with the others...but we've got to try, at least.
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User: joycemocha
Date: 2011-11-13 16:44 (UTC)
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FYI, the "we" in that last post is the collective "we" of those folks who identify as Christian but are not Christianists. Not the generic "we" of the entire population.
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