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Jay Lake
Date: 2012-02-05 07:52
Subject: [links] Link salad sleeps in
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Patchwork Dreaming — Gerard Houarner on keeping the story going in your head.

Carl Zimmer responds to Jonathan Franzen’s rant against ebooks. — Very good.

The Upside of Dyslexia

“San Diego Demonoid”: you mean that dead opossum?

Does Mars have life? New study says it’s unlikely on the surface.

In Fuel Oil Country, Cold That Cuts to the Heart

Neil deGrasse Tyson on politicians and the electorate

Islam, Women and the West — Some interesting thinking on Western perceptions of the Islamic world by Jonathan Lyons.

Jury finds Indiana Secretary of State Charlie White guilty on 6 of 7 felony charges — No wonder Republicans claim to be so concerned with voter fraud. After all, if they're committing it, surely everyone else is, too. Right? Anyone?

On eve of Darwin’s birthday, states take steps to limit evolution — It's the full throated support for lunacy like this that obscures the value of any real ideas the conservative movement has. Like flavoring your stew with rat poison, it doesn't matter how good your meat and veggies are.

Romney Is Not the “Stealth Tea Party Candidate” — Note to GOP: Romney is Wall Street delusionary conservative, not a Main Street delusionary conservative.

?otd: How much did you sleep last night?

Writing time yesterday: 2.0 hours (1.25 hours on short story revisions, 0.75 hours on Sunspin revisions)
Body movement: 30 minute stationary bike ride
Hours slept: 9.0 (solid)
Weight: 228.0
Currently reading: The Man in the Moone, and Other Lunar Fantasies ed. Faith Pizor

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Jim Hetley
User: jhetley
Date: 2012-02-05 16:00 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
In re: Maine heat

And LIHEAP has been cut. Drastically. Shove that in your budget and smoke it.
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User: barbarienne
Date: 2012-02-05 17:07 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
The Jonathan Lyons article made me sad. There are some interesting notions, but ultimately it's a big fat wallow in male privilege, and the comments (three at the time I read) are worse.

One cannot reasonably discuss any women's fashion--East or West, required or voluntary--if one completely fails to recognize the larger idiocy wherein women are considered a different species from men.
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User: jordan179
Date: 2012-02-05 21:43 (UTC)
Subject: The Plight of Muslim Women
It is a source of never-ending wonder to me that the Western Left is willing to cooperate in the assignment of lesser rights to Muslim women compared to Western women, and term this progressive. Legally and extra-legally punishing Muslim women for being unveiled would alone damn the Muslim world to condemnation by any rational man lacking misogynistic sentiments, but this is the least of what Muslim men do to Muslim women in countries under Muslim rule.

And no, we're not as bad here. In fact, women are oppressed more extremely in the modern Mideast not only than they are in the modern (20th-21st century) West, but also than they were in the West of the 19th or even 16th-18th centuries. Yes, the European Ancien Regime on the average treated women better than do modern Iran and Saudi Arabia. Yep, even with the Burning Time included.

My "wonder" comes from the fact that I'd think that the right of women not to be enslaved, raped, beaten and murdered would be one thing on which all political factions in the West could agree. But apparently, the fate of these women is not important enough to the Left to pass up on the chance to snipe at the Right for being "bigoted" enough to criticize Islam on this topic.

To me, women are female human beings with rights naturally equal to those of male human beings, and they still possess these rights even if they are swarthier-skinned than me and happen to live in a Muslim land. To the American Left, if they are not Western women, then this is apparently not the case, if criticizing the men in those societies would violate the precepts of multiculturalism.

Would it make a difference to you if I pointed out that the women you personally care for are thought of as infidel whores by those same Muslim men, and that it is only the fact that the modern Western Right is not so willing to lie down before multicultural dogmas and submit that preserves their rights? But then, I suspect that you expend a lot of intellectual energy avoiding just that truth, so I doubt it.
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User: chris_gerrib
Date: 2012-02-05 23:16 (UTC)
Subject: Re: The Plight of Muslim Women
As usual, Jordan, you missed the point. The point of the article was that we in the West interpret Islam based not on what is actually happening but on what we think (with or without knowledge) is happening.
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User: benschachar_77
Date: 2012-02-06 19:33 (UTC)
Subject: Re: The Plight of Muslim Women
"Exhibit A may be found in our obsession with the hijab, or veil, as a barometer of social progress and overall well-being within Islamic societies, to such a degree that it has become a commonplace of Western mass-media coverage, social activism, and political discussion alike. For years, the veil has been a staple of endless news articles, books, and documentaries, and it is captured in magazine and television images – all as shorthand for a society, a civilization, or a system that is backward, alien, immobile, and inherently antithetical to human rights and dignity."

Maybe you should take a closer look.
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User: chris_gerrib
Date: 2012-02-06 19:52 (UTC)
Subject: Re: The Plight of Muslim Women
And you think without any knowledge that wearing a hijab means that the wearer is being oppressed.

Maybe she is, maybe she isn't - you have no idea what's actually going on.
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User: benschachar_77
Date: 2012-02-06 19:56 (UTC)
Subject: Re: The Plight of Muslim Women
Oronoda had an interesting story about this.

"I remember reading about an Egyptian secular woman making an incredibly valid point. She said people argue that women can choose to wear the veil but it is not a choice if it is between getting raped or not. And in many of these countries, especially the ones that are offered a choice, are often told that if they don't wear it, they will get raped. That is not a choice. That is emotional blackmail."

Anyway, I wasn't debating about the veil or hijab I was just pointing out that there were sections which could be construed like Jordan construed them so he did not not "miss the point" so much as point out a few implicit arguments and comment about those.

Edited at 2012-02-06 08:05 pm (UTC)
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User: chris_gerrib
Date: 2012-02-06 20:10 (UTC)
Subject: Re: The Plight of Muslim Women
He pointed out implicit arguments without providing facts to back them up, while dialing the rhetoric to (at least) 11.
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User: pingback_bot
Date: 2012-02-05 21:47 (UTC)
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User: benschachar_77
Date: 2012-02-06 19:25 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
"No wonder Republicans claim to be so concerned with voter fraud. After all, if they're committing it, surely everyone else is, too. Right? Anyone?"


Edited at 2012-02-06 07:27 pm (UTC)
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User: cissa
Date: 2012-02-13 07:46 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Re: dyslexia: I am dyslexic (and it can make my typing rather bad). But- it can also be beneficial; when I took a speed-reading seminar, I (and another girl) who were dyslexic were by FAR the fastest; we basically read by seeing words as shapes- rather like ideographs- rather than spelling them out.

Once I got the hang of reading, my worst academic problem was with math; until I learned how to read and write problems from the chalkboard at the same time (so I didn't reverse numbers), I did poorly.

I still type badly. And I still reverse numbers if I am not very careful. However, I read REALLY fast! :) And the whole spatial thing had some benefits to understanding things like quantum physics.
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