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Jay Lake
Date: 2012-11-17 06:26
Subject: [links] Link salad stirs from its slumbers
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When an early camera caught a future president watching a dead one — Nice little piece of history, other than the thinly veiled Obama snark at the end.

Fog in Argentina’s Lake District — "Radiation fog"? Wait, what?

NPR's Science Friday goes after creationist mimic — Christianists are just like political conservatives. When you can't win on ideas, lie. Except political conservatives have ideas, however misguided they may be. Creationists are nothing but intellectual and spiritual frauds distorting both Christian faith and the reality of the world.

Two preaching giants and the 'betrayal' that tore them apart — There's a glaring hypocrisy at the heart of this story, all but ignored by the reporter, around the senior Stanley's divorce. As a Southern Baptist pastor, Charles Stanley has spent a lifetime condemning others for their divorces. But when divorce happened to him, Charles Stanley wanted forgiveness. Very typically Christianist, very typically conservative; to condemn others for the same things you justify in yourself.

When Right-Wing Christians Stopped Thinking of Women as PeopleYou'd be surprised at Christian denominations' positions on abortion in the 1970s. It is amazing how conveniently God's eternal and unchanging word can morph to fit conservative political strategies.

Mind-Blowing Bill O'Reilly Moment You Must See — Bill O'Reilly warns on FOX: "There are entire media operations that exist solely to promote ideology." Really? Can any human being with detectable brain activity be this unselfaware? Irony is dead, buried, rotted and forgotten. Confidential to conservative America: This is the kind of thing that confirms to the reality-based community that you really are nuts.

If you are 27 or younger, you’ve never lived through a colder than average month — Nope. No climate change whatsoever. Nothing to see here, citizen, move along.

California Tackles Climate Change, But Will Others Follow? — Remember kids, being conservative and thus exempted from the reality-based community, Red States don't have climate change. So buy that Gulf Coast beachfront property now! And good luck with those liberal hurricanes.

Your Secession Checklist — Required reading for allegedly self-sufficient conservative morans everywhere.

Willard's Last Gaffe?And if it's OK for business to pursue its self-interests through government, why is it such a terrible sin for ordinary citizens to do so? Why is dependence on government just fine for corporations but dirty words for common people? That is a question Romney, and today's Republicans generally, can't answer. It's what makes him, and them, unfit to govern this country.

Top farm subsidy areas overwhelmingly supported Romney — Farm subsidies which benefit conservatives are an essential Federal program and aren't wasteful at all. Healthcare for all Americans is a gift trolling for votes, and therefore mere political waste. If you agree with this, you may be a conservative.

Paul Ryan's Wisconsin neighbors supported his opponents — Dude lost his home district. Tells you everything you need to know about the GOP presidential ticket, doesn't it?

WrongnessScrivener's Error on the wrong-ness of the GOP, and why we still need them. I was essentially making this same point a few days ago.

?otD: Last night, did you sleep at all?

Writing time yesterday: 0.0 hours (chemo)
Body movement: 0.5 hours (stationary bike)
Hours slept: 9.25 hours (8.25 hours solid plus napping)
Weight: 219.4
Number of FEMA troops on my block closing down golf courses and interning Romney voters: 0
Currently reading: A Civil Campaign by Lois McMaster Bujold

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Andrew Trembley
User: bovil
Date: 2012-11-17 16:24 (UTC)
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We get radiation fog in the Sacramento and San Joaquin valleys. It has to do with how it forms, usually around small areas of surface water. Very odd. One moment it's clear, and a minute later it's pea soup.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2012-11-17 17:09 (UTC)
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Yeah, but such terminology...

BTW, my favorite fog is freezing fog. I've had the *inside* of my windshield ice up driving with the top down in such.
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User: mmegaera
Date: 2012-11-18 01:17 (UTC)
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Well, if you don't like calling it radiation fog, they call it tule fog (because it happens in the tules???) in California...
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Andrew Trembley
User: bovil
Date: 2012-11-18 04:34 (UTC)
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Tule marshes are particularly prone to radiation fog. Both because of standing water and the tule grass.
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User: daveraines
Date: 2012-11-17 19:28 (UTC)
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Re: the Stanleys - I'm no big fan of Charles Stanley, but one of the things that keeps me Christian is *exactly* the possibility of being forgiven when you don't deserve it; it's *exactly* the possibility of turning around ("repentance") and growing as a person. I suppose that looks like hypocrisy, and if so, so be it.

Take this, for example: "Charles refused to fit the caricature of a simple 'Bible thumper.' He had defied Southern Baptist theology by saying women should be able to preach. He installed 12 Step programs in his church and an orchestra. He was a techno-geek who loved computers and photography."

And Charles says he became more in-touch with his parishioners after experiencing his own painful divorce (which his wife, not he, chose). That is, he changed.

And, more to the point, he and Andy pursued a dogged and painful reconciliation between two stubborn and broken people, father and son.

I do not always find reconciliation in the church, but I find it there far more often than in the culture at large.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2012-11-17 19:47 (UTC)
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Agreed. And you, for me, are emblematic of Christianity at its best.

But here's a guy who, until his own divorce, spent decades condemning and persecuting others for their divorces. (At least, this is how I read the reference to SBC pastors losing their pulpits when divorcing, and pressures on congregants whose marriages dissolved.) So when he was at the height of his power and not personally dealing with the nuances of that issue, it was easy to condemn others.

I call that bullying, with repentance only when it came his turn to be on the sharp end of the stick. This is a social dynamic that sticks badly in my craw in any context, not just religious. The journalist barely touches on this, which seems to me to be pretty important to understanding Charles Stanley's character.

I'll give Charles Stanley props for the related remark that he won't remarry while his wife is alive. Given that she divorced him, he's at least being consistent in that rule of the church.

NB - I am painfully aware of the moral and ethical flaw in my own response here. My viewpoint makes me very cynical about both forgiveness and the possibility of change. My own childhood sense of social isolation and victimization (sadly, very well earned) impedes my ability to approach forgiveness in the manner which any human being should aspire to, regardless of their religious or ethical framework.

For me it tends to come down to, "You were quite happy to be an abusive ass when you had the power not to be but it suited your purposes to do anyway; so why should I believe you're sorry now that your own fingers are in the vise?" That's not a very morally evolved stance on my part.
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User: daveraines
Date: 2012-11-17 20:13 (UTC)
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>>I call that bullying

Yeah, and abuse of power is something Christians in particular should beware of (and often don't). I don't know Stanley's pre-divorce stance, but my inference matches yours. The question becomes what happens "now that your own fingers are in the vise" (in your happy phrase). Will you change? Will people forgive you, let you out of the box you've built for yourself?

>> That's not a very morally evolved stance on my part.

Oh, don't beat yourself up too much. I think of the Amish community that, on the day an insane shooter killed their schoolchildren, brought casseroles to the shooter's widow. There's forgiveness, and then there's forgiveness as an extreme sport. I just don't know if I could do that. What a journey this life is sometimes.

>> impedes my ability to approach forgiveness in the manner which any human being should aspire to, regardless of their religious or ethical framework.

Forgiveness is hard work sometimes!
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