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Jay Lake
Date: 2007-02-03 14:37
Subject: "Prove to me that you're divine / Turn my water into wine"
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Tags:links, politics, religion
The estimable Slacktivist on Biblical literalism and wine.

Excellent. Does a much better job than I do of hitting on a point which bothers me constantly.
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User: (Anonymous)
Date: 2007-02-03 23:48 (UTC)
Subject: Interesting post
Your article is very informative and helped me further.

Thanks, David
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juliabk: Franklin Says
User: juliabk
Date: 2007-02-03 23:50 (UTC)
Subject: "Prove to me that you're no fool/Walk across my swimming pool"
Keyword:Franklin Says
I always wanted to know about the prohibition against dancing. It's always made even less sense to me than the prohibition against alcohol until I read this definition of Puritanism: The fear that someone, somewhere may be having a good time. Clears the whole thing right up.

Why, oh *why* couldn't we have gotten the convicts???????
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J.K.Richárd
User: neutronjockey
Date: 2007-02-04 03:31 (UTC)
Subject: Re: "Prove to me that you're no fool/Walk across my swimming pool"
Did you read the rules on the teens-4-christ web board? Talk about the definition of religious controlling cult behavior...then the audacity to discuss cults in another message topic?!
I'd like to go wash my eyes out with wine and dance a pagan jig now...
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juliabk: Sucking Liberty
User: juliabk
Date: 2007-02-04 03:52 (UTC)
Subject: Re: "Prove to me that you're no fool/Walk across my swimming pool"
Keyword:Sucking Liberty
I had to stop not too many messages into the "Should Women Work Outside the Home" thread. Good grief! That was the most idiotic drivel I've ever seen in my life! "A woman should not be over a man because that's not Biblical."

Sorry, chickie, but indoor plumbing isn't Biblical, either. Bet she won't do without that.
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J.K.Richárd
User: neutronjockey
Date: 2007-02-04 04:11 (UTC)
Subject: Re: "Prove to me that you're no fool/Walk across my swimming pool"
O.o How did I miss that lovely thread...here I am researching feminist movements circa Old Testament times---what a load of utter crap!
I'm on page 4 or so of that thread... my.eyes.burn.
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juliabk
User: juliabk
Date: 2007-02-04 04:16 (UTC)
Subject: Re: "Prove to me that you're no fool/Walk across my swimming pool"
I need brain bleach and a scrub brush.

I feel dirty just reading it... and NOT because I'm a mother 'working outside the home'.

I 'loved' the bit about how a woman can only be fulfilled if she stays home with her children and how women used to do it just fine. Uh-huh. Right. Educating women probably also causes sterility and mental instability according to that cow.
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juliabk: Samurai Cat
User: juliabk
Date: 2007-02-04 04:23 (UTC)
Subject: Re: "Prove to me that you're no fool/Walk across my swimming pool"
Keyword:Samurai Cat
I'm sure she'd say the fact that I almost always made more than my ex is probably why my marriage failed. Yes, I have heard this many, MANY times before as well. And the nonsense I've been told about how horrible it is that my child was in day care from the time she was 6 months old was simply incredible. Terrible how she's turned out, too... mature, stable, rational, uses good judgment, does community work, is doing well in her gifted/talented program at school. Such a terrible thing to happen to an innocent child. (She's in 7th grade and took the SAT last weekend as part of the Duke TIPS thingy - said the English was very easy, finished the essay and was mostly bored by the math that wasn't completely over her head.)
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mbroaddus
User: mbroaddus
Date: 2007-02-04 01:32 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
we (evangelicals) need to admit that the culture in which we live impacts how we interpret scripture. it's that simple. more often than not, it's not scripture that holds authority in our lives, but our interpretation of scripture. a key difference to note when we're telling folks how to live.

my pastor is in the middle of a series on "addiction" (though, not strictly the substance abuse kind). i told him that if he truly wanted to drive the point home (and "substance abuse" folks take note), we ought to not serve coffee that sunday.

then again, i call wine "jesus juice", so what do i know.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-02-04 01:39 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
That's why I like you so much.

And note, somewhat more seriously, my objection isn't to belief -- that's the privilege of our society, to choose our faith (or lack of it) -- my objection is to absolutism.
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mbroaddus
User: mbroaddus
Date: 2007-02-04 01:41 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
no worries. i have the same objection.
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