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Jay Lake
Date: 2007-03-12 08:36
Subject: Up or Down? A Male Economist’s Manifesto on the Toilet Seat Etiquette
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Tags:funny, weird
An economic efficiency analysis of the toilet seat position problem.

One suspects humor may be afoot.
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User: jtdiii
Date: 2007-03-12 16:02 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Bathrooms on the brain this morning?

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Gary Emenitove
User: garyomaha
Date: 2007-03-12 16:08 (UTC)
Subject: Toilet Topics
I actually started reading this and quickly went into scan and then yawn mode.

I think logic is strongly against leaving the seat completely up, because males --ahem-- do not use a toilet exclusively in the "seat up" position. I find it terribly odd that was ignored, but I may have missed it.

More to the point, why was the most reasonable option not even discussed: just put the LID down. Not only does that solve this entire dilemma, but it also solves (a) miscellaneous items falling into said toilet and (b) miscellaneous pets drinking from said toilet.

It looks better, too.
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Jay Lake
User: jaylake
Date: 2007-03-12 16:11 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Toilet Topics
Not to mention the whole plume/dispersal thing
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User: squirrel_monkey
Date: 2007-03-12 16:39 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Toilet Topics
That's what I was thinking, not to mention that the whole thing, humor or not, comes across as a mere assertion of male privilege.
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Brian Dolton
User: tchernabyelo
Date: 2007-03-12 16:42 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Toilet Topics
Although it is indeed true that males may use one of two modes (seat up/seat down), there's probably a higher frequency of seat-up usage.

Ultimately, the efficiency is going to be determined by how the sex ratio of the users combined with the relative seat-up/seat-down ratio tabulated across all users.

However, it's always struck me that the simplest option is to leave the seat in the state that you put it. That way, there will never need to be an "unnecessary" seat movement - if the next person needs the seat up, and it's down, they can just put it up, but if you had put it down and they had to put it back up again, well, that's just rampant inefficiency right there - two people have wasted time and energy.

Given the number of bathrooms these days (particularly in hotels) that have two sinks - a his and hers option - it may be time we just started putting ni his and hers toilets. Then one seat can just stay down all the time (hell, glue it there if you like), and everybody's content.

I can't believe I'm discussing this.
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User: mizkit
Date: 2007-03-12 18:07 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Toilet Topics
I actually started reading this and quickly went into scan and then yawn mode.

Yeah, me too. :)

I've always pretty much felt that 'seat down' ought to win out because leaving the damned seat up and causing the poor unsuspecting bastard who staggers into the bathroom in the middle of the night and sits down without turning the light on to plunge ass-first into icy cold water is an act of unspeakable cruelty.
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User: chipmunk_planet
Date: 2007-03-13 01:01 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:strange girl
Toilet differential equations?

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User: (Anonymous)
Date: 2007-03-13 03:02 (UTC)
Subject: Toilet smarts
If you're male, and you're living with or staying with females, then the appropriate placement of the seat is *down.* You may be a prick, but if you put the seat down, ipso facto there must be some good in you. Seriously, a simple flick of a lid absolves a man of all sorts of sexist behaviors.

Seat down also benefits the man because then it doesn't matter if you piss all over the rim: once the seat's down, the girls never see it.
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